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Pay comparison between of yesterday’s UFC main event winner and boxing’s B side winner.

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  1. Destino2018 Purple Belt

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    Crazy to think about Usyk who is a relative unknown to casuals made over 4 million to beat on AJ while Volk went through a war and won’t even come close to numbers like that.
     
  2. Bojka Brown Belt

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    Heavyweights in the UFC also make much more than featherweights though.

    Not saying Volk isn't underpaid, but naturally people are going to get paid in a HW title fight. Especially when you were the dominant cruiserweight champ moving up for what is essentially a super fight.
     
  3. Kryptt Dead Belt Platinum Member

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    Also years and years between the sports...

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    Well, while I agree with you, Boxing pays the top of the card a lot more, btu then again, Boxing has been at it for hundreds of years.
    MMA is just starting.
    As one fighter said once (forgot who it was), fighters won't join forces even if it is to revendicate getting paid more... which is sad, because obviously UFC abuses this fact..

    but I am sure the sport will change at some point.
     
  5. avenue94 Black Belt

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    When's the last time a UFC HW who wasn't named Brock Lesnar got paid $4 million. I'm not even sure any UFC HW since has made that money.
    How does that affect pay or wage share? There are boxers from before WWII pulling bigger purses than UFC champs.
     
  6. avenue94 Black Belt

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    Same question as above, what does this have to do with wage share? What start up costs are the UFC paying out that boxing doesn't in the 21st century?
     
  7. The Renegade Silver Belt

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    Champions should be getting at least 1 million in show at this point. But comparing HW boxing to FW MMA is ridiculous.
     
  8. Kryptt Dead Belt Platinum Member

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    Average it across the board year by year by org by total revenue vs payout vs invested.

    Then I may care. Otherwise it's an ongoing ridiculous topic that has been beaten more than any dead horse...
     
  9. Kryptt Dead Belt Platinum Member

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    See above...
     
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    Thank you. For some reason this is never brought up
     
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  11. avenue94 Black Belt

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    Define invested.

    You won't fight great data on run of the mill smokers and such but you'll find more than one superfight equivalent from the early 20s of boxers pulling 50 percent or more of event revenue.
    How does this affect wage share, which has actually been declining over the past decade.
     
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  12. Kryptt Dead Belt Platinum Member

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    I mean don't get me wrong. I more than feel MMA fighters deserve a greater share of the revenue. I just know that my knowledge of all the factors involved is limited. I also know that without years and sweeping changes it's gonna stay pretty stagnant. Too few available contracts and thousands willing to take the lowest bid to get them.

    We are saturated (Orgs) and weekly I watch fighters pine for the UFC call.
     
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  13. Kryptt Dead Belt Platinum Member

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    Maybe allocated was a better word (but kinda inclusive)

    We know a huge share goes to the Endevor dept. Then Shareholders, then projects, etc. Part of this opens venues for fighters to make more money (social media, those NFT cards, etc). Still the big funnel is obv the 1st two but that's what I see.
     
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    Yeah, one is steeped in tradition, while the other is a bush league ran by a big red goof.
     
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    IG followers comparison
    Usyk: 1.4M while his opponent A.J has 12.9M followers
    Volk: 450k while his opponent TCity has 876k followers

    Now if you crunch a few numbers, do a little bit of calculus and a sprinkle of trigonometry, you'll see that the numbers favour boxing in every aspect. hell they had 70k in attendance in UK, what was UFCs attendance?

    Also it'll be interesting to compare the 2 ppv sales since they're on the same day.
     
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  16. avenue94 Black Belt

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    Most of their financials are public. Put it this way, the UFC is on track this year to have lower expenses in absolute terms, without adjustment for inflation, than 2015, even while revenue has skyrocketed. Does that scream investment in the fighters or sport?
    I wouldn't say necessarily too few contracts. More just a very dysfunctional market due to lack of competition for various reasons.
    I can't really see this being a huge win. WME execs could probably name 10 fighters on a roster with several hundred. They don't give a shit. It's classic, well, we are skimming a lot of money from you guys (sponsors, shit pay, etc.), but hey, here's a small bit of pocket change that doesn't come close to making up for the money we are taking away from fighters.

    I'd wager if you polled a bunch of fighters and asked if they wanted the option to have their own sponsors versus WME giving a few of them ins into show business, most would want the former.
     
  17. EYEKICKFACES Brown Belt

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    If you do not understand the word "invested" then you are in no position to be discussing fighter pay or what an organization should be paying. You can't make up this kind of stupid!
     
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  18. Kryptt Dead Belt Platinum Member

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    Well they have been referred to as an ATM for years and years.

    Overall the MMA market cannot sustain high pay for the numbers out there. Many are aware how much talent is outside the UFC. All that is in UFC's pocket... They have the desired contracts and it's too few for what everyone wants to see happen. They have zero incentive to change a machine that works so well for them.

    Yea - I'd like to see some harder #'s from various orgs on Sponsor pay. Like KSW with the advertising tattoos (temp), etc. I dig a little here and there but most comes from reading the previous regurgitations of this topic.
     
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    Usyk is far more recognisable around the world than volk. And I’m surprised he only earned 4m. My guess is that’s a little low
     
  20. Orochimaru 大蛇丸 Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    I'm the Boxer is getting more, but we don't know what Volk actually gets paid... the disclosed numbers don't mean anything
     
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