Part I: Nick Diaz - The Early Days.

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  1. The Natural Born Runner

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    THE EARLY DAYS:

    This thread chronicles Nick's first 9 professional MMA bouts, full fight breakdowns, fun observations and just all-around feel-good times and analysis for anyone who has seen this bouts or not seen them.

    So here we go, back to where it all began:

    Nick Diaz vs Mike Wick - IFC Warriors Challenge 15, August 31st, 2001

    Unfortunately, I've never seen Nick's debut bout. Not much info on it, no videos etc. Mike never fought again he retired at 0-1. Nick won this fight via Triangle Choke, pretty sweet for a debut.

    Nick Diaz vs Chris Lytle - IFC Warriors Challenge 17, July 12, 2002

    When this fight took place Nick was ONLY 18! Chris was a messy 9-7-5, but for Nick to win this fight against a guy with 21 professional fights at the time - that's pretty impressive.

    Nick won every round in my books. Story of the fight was Nick's grappling and top-game, he dominated the majority of the fight with it. Chris essentially lay on Nick in Round 3, and when the ref eventually stood it up Nick put a bad beating on Chris with very clean straights and finished the round pounding down on-top.

    How someone scored this for Lytle, to make this a Split Decision is beyond me!? Nick easily won this fight.

    Nick Diaz vs Blaine Tyler - UA 4: King of the Mountain, September 28th, 2002

    Nick entered a one-night Welterweight tournament where he took on Blaine Tyler in the QF stage. Blaine was debuting in MMA, formerly a Muay Thai fighter.

    Nick broke Blaine's arm in the 1st round with a fully extended armbar, hit him with triangle after triangle, even had a pretty close Kimura - Tyler DID NOT TAP, the guy was a warrior. Nick eventually got him down in Round 2, mounted him, and finished him with punches - a bit of a late stoppage from Herb Dean ;)

    Nick Diaz vs Adam Lynn - UA 4: King of the Mountain, September 28th, 2002


    Lynn was 3-1 at the time, 17-10 at the end of his career as he retired in 2012. This didn't last long. Adam got a trip early and got Nick to the ground. After some good bottom work from Nick he angled up a armbar which he locked in pretty swiftly and got the quick tap. His BJJ was so advanced even at this stage of his career.

    Nick Diaz vs Jeremy Jackson I - UA 4: King of the Mountain, September 28th, 2002


    The infamous Jeremy Jackson fight. The only time Nick has ever been stopped.

    Let's just put a few things in perspective here. Both guys were super young, Diaz at 19 and Jackson at 20. Nick simply got caught, and for anyone who knows Nick's early days - the guy was a scrappy karate style striker who kicked and kneed much more than he punched. He even recently said in an interview that he had zero boxing experience prior to this fight and this fight was the reason he begun training boxing properly.

    Nick got caught only a few seconds in with a solid jab on the move which dropped him. He tried to recover but the ground and pound that ensued after the knockdown and some more punches on the feet led to him hitting the canvas again and getting stopped.

    Legit stoppage, people do always forget to mention that it was his third fight that night though ;)

    Nick Diaz vs Harris Sarmiento - Warriors Quest 8, October 24th, 2002


    Much like his debut, no footage of this fight that I can find. Wikipedia reads that he got the stoppage in Round 2 due to Harris' corner stopping the fight - I can't shed much more light than that. Harris was 0-2 at the time, still finding his feet. As of 2014 he is a true journeyman with a 36-26 record, but he's fought some of the best around - in Thomson, Melendez, Huerta, Holloway and Noons.

    Nick Diaz vs Kuniyoshi Hironaka - Shooto: Year End Show 2002, December 14th, 2002


    So as a avid fan of Nick, you read Split Decision loss and you immediate have excuses locked and loaded lol. In all objectivity though, Nick won this fight or at the very least you could score a draw.

    Story of the fight was a dominant Round 1 for Hironaka, with mean Ground and Pound and good top control. The second round was much of the same until Nick got it back to the feet and nailed Kuni with a stiff straight, Nick poured it on and got his own takedown in that round and secured the back - that is a Diaz round for me. Round 3 was all Diaz, and I loved how he shouts to his corner "how much time do I have?" with 1 minute left, he immediately takes mount and batters his opponent until the bell sounds.

    I'd accept a draw with PRIDE scoring, cannot see how you score this for Hironaka - home cooking much?

    Nick Diaz vs Joe Hurley - WEC 6, March 27th, 2003


    This fight has got one of the weirdest pre-fight promos you'll ever see. Joe thinks he is Logan from X-Men with his hair and beard, and is talking about all his friends dying, it's the most odd thing I've seen in MMA lol.

    Nick cracks Joe with a right hook whilst Joe is advancing about 20 seconds in, drops him HARD. Nick takes top position and gets into a North-South position where he Kimura's Joe - his arm pops out of place and he is left in agony. Nick is immediately apologetic and shows sportsmanship that he's accused of lacking.

    Nick Diaz vs Jeremy Jackson II - IFC Warriors Challenge 18, July 19th, 2003

    Entrance music for Nick is "Let the bodies hit the floor", oh yeah man he wanted revenge!

    Nick clearly wants no part of striking with Jeremy and is diving for takedowns. He gets shrugged off pretty easily and then clipped and dropped (not a true knockdown). The story of the fight is Nick holding on for dear life, and going full Maia mode. Eventually he actually clips Jeremy and uses that moment to get him down.

    Once they hit the mat it's essentially over - it's white belt vs black belt, Nick slices through to side control with ease and only due to his own eagerness he loses the position. Eventually he passes again and gets to Full Mount - from there he rains punches down on Jeremy until he turtles up and the referee stops it.

    Fantastic performance by Nick and he wipes his only legitimate loss to that point off of his record somewhat.

    Summary, observations etc.


    Style:
    You can see from these fights that Nick began as a BJJ fighter. It's no coincidence that his path to victory in these early bouts were always on the ground, whether it be Ground and Pound TKO, or a submission. I genuinely think that Jeremy Jackson KO taught him a lesson and made him focus on boxing improvements.

    His reputation for cuts:
    You also get an insight into Nick's scar tissue origins in these fights. He got a HUGE cut against Lytle which covered his face in blood, he also got cut slightly against Hironaka. So this is where all those eyebrow slices began ladies and gentleman.

    Activity:
    From Nick's second professional fight he fought 8 times in the space of a year! WOW!

    His sportsmanship:
    Nick immediately pulled Jeremy up and hugged him after his victory. Bear in mind this is the big bad Nick Diaz who is disrespectful to his opponents supposedly - this is the only man to date to ever KO him and he is all over this guy giving him all the props in the world. Jeremy lifts him up and they have a great moment together. He didn't complain once about the robbery against Hiro, and he was so sporting after the submission against Joe Hurley - his lack of sportsmanship is a myth.

    PART II soon...

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    Is there an audio book? lol... JK
    good read TS
     
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    keep going! I enjoyed, thanks
     
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    Part II tomorrow possibly :)

    Thanks for the appreciation man.
     
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    Is he doing a Stephen Curry impression? Freezing on the big stage?
     
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    Click on your threads just to see Nicks's girls ass in your avatar.

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    Very interesting read especially the theory that the Lytle cut was a big part of Nick's problems with scar tissue.

    And yet here you are posting in it bumping it back up to the top. You are clearly smarter than the average bear. Also Nick has been cleared to fight again and will hopefully fight at UFC 209.
     
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    You mean one of the most polarizing and interesting characters in MMA? Pardon me... why even click on it lol?
     
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    Did not know the Jeremy Jackson fight was his 3rd of the night, good info ts. A decent thread for a change of pace up in here
     
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    Very good read. Thanks for the write-up.

    You have to ignore the jackasses on here. You have to remember that two-thirds of Shertards are haters. They have no friends or lovers. Nobody likes them. Not even their own mothers.

    And they're illiterate to boot. So it just pisses them off to see someone who can actually write a paragraph or two without breaking into a sweat.
     
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    Thanks man, I appreciate the support.

    I do ignore them, for the most part. Very happy that some people can enjoy a good thread. I have a passion for writing and I have a passion for MMA, so I love doing my research and typing up stuff for you all to enjoy.
     
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