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  1. TheRatman

    TheRatman Brown Belt

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    No this fight isn't being talked about but why not. Plavik has stated that he wants to move up to 168, cause he can't make 160 anymore and Bute is waiting around til the Super Six is done. So why don't they fight each other. Who want to see this fight and who do you think wins it.
     
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    Bute is a real special talent, I don't count Pavlik out in any fight but I feel Bute's power, hand speed, combinations, and defense all trump Pavlik's
     
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    hate to be trendy, but I gotta go with Bute.. the guy impresses me more and more every fight.

    Pav has heart though..so it could be good.
     
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    I like Pavlik too and he does have Heart, but he's too one-dimensional.

    More complete top fighters at 168 with more tools will be too much for him.
    Bute would fold his body. I can't see Pavlik seeing the Final bell against Bute.
     
  5. FreshPrince

    FreshPrince Banned Banned

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    Nah, Pavlik's going to hit the bottle and fight a few bums before he takes on another top fighter. He'll take a few soft touches at 168 before taking on Bute or a Super Six fighter. Can't blame him though, he just took a whuppin and another loss at this point would probably bump him off HBO.
     
  6. Gontran

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    Actually Bute's management has wanted this fight for a while now. I believe they tried to get pavlik after the second bute-andrade fight if I remember correctly. HBO was also interested in the fight. It's not an accident that Bute-Miranda was televised on the same night as Pavlik-Martinez.

    As for the fight, I believe Bute takes it. I like both guys but Bute has more tools, is bigger and Pavlik hasn't looked good against slick boxers recently (hopkins/martinez)
     
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    I heard Bute vs Hopkins is possibly in the works atm.
     
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    I think Bute overwhelms Palvik and stops him in the mid rounds. I would rather see Palvik fight Andrade, that would be a good scrap at 168 for him
     
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    How fortunate for Bute that the rest of the 168 division is on lockdown for almost another year.

    Easy pickings for him I say, he'll conviniently move up to 175 once the Super 6 is over with.
     
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    I think Pavlik get beats here; I don't want to count him out but I'm not sure he can handle Bute. I've been questioning him a lot lately, He seems to be lacking the Heart when He's down in a fight.
     
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    Pavlik may lose that hometown fanbase with another loss. I was looking at articles about him on the local Youngstown news site (Vindy.com) and pretty much all of the comments are negative.

    Youngstown News, Pavlik to take summer break

     
  12. Gontran

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    harsh comments, especially coming from his hometown "supporters"
     
  13. TheRatman

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    Dam, his own hometown.With q big win, they'll all come running back.
     
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    I would love this fight. I think it'll be a strong showing from Pavlik but I think he loses to Bute as a late round TKO (cut or something) or the fight goes to decision. Is it just me or is Pavlik really starting to get damaged more and more in the ring? I guess it's to be expected when he walks through punches instead of moving away or blocking them...
     
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    Bute should win this via late round TKO IMO.
     
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    This is a horrible matchup from all aspects, I hope they don't sign it He didn't lose to Martinez because of the weight cut, he lost because Martinez is a fast, slick southpaw, and so is Bute. The only difference is that Bute is bigger, has a better body attack and more power.

    As somebody else said earlier, Andrade would be the fight for him, or Abraham if he wasn't tied up with the super 6 tourney. Whoever he fights, i wish him the best of luck as he is one of my fav fighters.

    By the way, its pretty fucked up that his hometown fans would say that about him. He has some holes in his game for sure, but that doesn't mean he's just some random pussy off the streets.
     
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  17. TheRatman

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    I think the ones about Jack Lowe might be right. I think he might have taken Kelly as far as he can and Kelly would be smart to find a top teir trainer now, so he can polish Kelly up some.
     
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    I think Bute would beat him well to a decision
     
  19. Del the Funk66

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    I don't see it happening. When has Pavlik ever been stopped? I don't anticipate that Bute would be the first.
     
  20. MC Paul Barman

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    I think it's too risky for Bute.
    Pavlik is a guy who, with two losses, is viewed by many to be either one-dimensional (therefore useless) or damaged goods.
    Most either don't know or don't care about the claims of sickness prior to the Hopkins fight.
    And most won't give him credit for actually adjusting pretty well to Martinez prior to the cut that really threw him off of his game.

    All that matters is most will still call him one-dimensional or damaged goods.

    However, reality and popular opinion can be at odds - he's a live threat to Bute.
    If Bute were to lose to Pavlik then that really tarnishes his image at supermiddle.
    Popular Opinion: A one-dimensional, slow middle weight who was easily beaten by two boxers just beat (exposed) a supermiddle (Bute) who never really fought a live opponent.
     

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