1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »

***Palhares-Shields Breakdown: Was it too Long? Unbiased Video.***

Discussion in 'Worldwide MMA Discussion' started by The Reed, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. The Reed Red Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Messages:
    8,576
    Likes Received:
    228
    [YT]PJWG6xtxbmo[/YT]
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2015
  2. Jaymo_ie Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,387
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kildare, Ireland.
    Great video! I actually felt it was longer watching it at the time. I don't think he did much wrong actually watching it like that. We are taught to wait for the ref...he did and pretty much let go then. Mazza didn't really cover himself in glory. What was the story with the guy trying to get into the cage afterwards too....
     
  3. piepie Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    30
    good vid was needed. the answer is NO. the sub was fine, the onlyb thing that might be dirty was the eye poking
     
  4. piepie Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    30
    @ REED are you also a moderator @ boxingscene???
     
  5. The Reed Red Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2007
    Messages:
    8,576
    Likes Received:
    228
    Nope, not me.
     
  6. bjjwar Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2011
    Messages:
    4,297
    Likes Received:
    638
    The refs should be quicker imo.I didn't think it was too long this time,but because of his reputation people will sh** on him anyway.

    It'd be great to have other kimura subs to compare the release times.I'm pretty sure the average is around 1 second.

    But i think the whole issue is that Palhares doesn't release after the tap and just waits till the ref stops him.Those are the rules,but he really could make an effort and release earlier as soon as he feels the tap.
     
  7. INTERL0PER Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Messages:
    4,647
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    Aotearoa
    It's not just that it's too long, it's that he keeps cranking the subs.

    If he'd turned the kimura to the point where Shields was tapping, and held it there, I'd be fine with it. But he doesn't stop, he keeps going. Well after Shields has tapped, he keeps cranking. As the referee gets on him, he keeps cranking.

    This has happened too many times. He's had plenty of opportunity to learn from his mistakes.

    The guy's dangerous and a liability, IMO.
     
  8. TobikanJudan94 Never be game over

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2,653
    Likes Received:
    0
    Lol I remember people saying this even after Pierce,with the seconds too. He left after 1 second even after Pierce.Those countdowns are basically builded to exonerate Palhares. The guy taps and he still cranks the sub(not classy but still legal),the ref steps in,he STILL cranks the sub,the ref beats him on his back and Palhares clamly and quietly lets the sub...lol. 1 second.
     
  9. theMMA White Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2014
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    0
    Shields: "I am gonna break Paul Harris's limbs when we fight"

    Paul Harris: "LOL, look at this"

    Shields : "OMG Jenny he almost broke my limb"

    What?
     
  10. LilMountain Section 20 Operative

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2005
    Messages:
    22,280
    Likes Received:
    105
    Location:
    New Joisey
    This
     
  11. htrd Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2010
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    0
    people hating on him seem to ignore the rules, fighters taping don't stop fights referees do. if you go watch every supposed late release from palhares they are all gonna avg 1s after the ref steps in. this isn't grappling competition the rules different.
     
  12. BVG Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2014
    Messages:
    10,520
    Likes Received:
    0
    What should have happened was as soon as Dickbag felt the MULTIPLE TAPS on his ass, he should have slowed down on the hold or even just "hovered" at the angle he was currently at...not fucking go same pace towards breaking Shields arm...there is no point in that.

    He had Shields tapping, and Shields wasn't escaping.

    The ref was slow to the draw and should have known better.

    He has a HISTORY of doing this and in good conscious, should have displayed that he's "matured" by slowing down on the hold.

    Dickbag needs to be removed from the sport, I think muscle for the mob might be more his caliber...of course that would land him jail time which I find is totally fitting.
     
  13. ShinkanPo Steel Belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    34,603
    Likes Received:
    3,745
    Location:
    Strange realm
    well shields still manage to punch him with his broken arm. I think it was stop prematurely
     
  14. Cobra201 Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2012
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    0
    Problem is, Jake was already tapping for a second before that. Dude just keeps cranking, even while ref is pleading with him to stop.

    Make a video for when the average fighter lets go after the ref stops the fight for a better comparison.
     
  15. HelloJapan Talking loud and saying nothing. Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2014
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    402
    Location:
    Vancouver, Canada
    I feel it's blown out a bit due to Paul Harris's past (and rightly so), however he did let go fairly quickly when Maz FINALLY stepped in. I feel Maz needs to take some blame, i don't think he understands submissions very well (Brock/Mir-1). All this being said Harris's sub was a thing of beauty, and on a TOP level grappler. I honestly think Harris is just very mentally slow, his RAS system doesn't quite work up to speed. Remember kids, they sign up to fight him knowing the risks. If no one agrees to fight him then he's done.
     
  16. mikezismike Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2008
    Messages:
    5,464
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Philippines
    looool m8
     
  17. CJ86 Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2014
    Messages:
    553
    Likes Received:
    2
    So from now on, when a fighter rocks/KOs another fighter, their follow-up punches should only be jabs, otherwise they could hurt the other fighter.


    That's how stupid your arguments all sound. It's a FIGHT for fucks sake.
     
  18. NL MMA Blue Belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2011
    Messages:
    805
    Likes Received:
    65
    100% agree.

    Wasnt too long

    But the Palhares-haters are gonna hate

    Meanwhile he tapped Fitch and Shields, both talked a lot of shit before the fight, too bad guys
     
  19. OverCoronavirus Pressure Mayberry = War Room, WR = OT. Shit. Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    62,877
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    5/7/89 Grateful Dead show, Frost amphitheatre
    Anyone here recall Sonnen's Brazilian tap vs. Silva?
     
  20. matt35750 Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    443
    Likes Received:
    0
    It looked like he only stopped because he couldn't crank it any farther. He's really should be locked up.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.