Oxford University extends time on exams to help women

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So Oxford has extended the time on exams explicitly to help women pass because apparently women are less capable of dealing with time constraints than men. Not my words Oxfords. I personally don't think they should be doing this. I think the exam should be as hard as needed to show you are qualified to be an engineer. And considerations about race and gender should not be there.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_androidshare_AqFyzDtPdhGP

Oxford University exam times were increased in a bid to improve the low scores of women, it has emerged.

Students taking maths and computer science examinations in the summer of 2017 were given an extra 15 minutes to complete their papers, after dons ruled that "female candidates might be more likely to be adversely affected by time pressure". There was no change to the length or difficulty of the questions.

It was the first time such steps had been taken. In previous years, the percentage of male students awarded first class degrees was double that of women and in 2016 the board of examiners suggested that the department make changes to improve women's grades.

However, despite the intention being to lessen gender discrepancies, the main effect of the time increase appears to have been an increase in the number of 2:1s overall, with 2:2 figures falling. Men continued to be awarded more first class degrees than women in the two subjects.

A university spokesman defended the changes as "academically demanding and fair", and noted that while 39 per cent of female mathematicians achieved first class degrees compared to 47 per cent of men, women's scores had improved year on year


The lengthening of exams was welcomed by some female students. Antonia Siu, Undergraduate Representative of Oxford Women in Computer Science, said: "I am uneasy about schemes to favour one gender over another.


"But I am happy when people see gaps between groups of people who should not reasonably have such gaps - such as between genders, races or class - and take that as a starting point to think about the kinds of people they unintentionally are leaving behind."
 
Brave new world barrel assing it’s way into Oxford. Nothing wrong with it.
 
I was about to ask if they gave this to all students wouldn't everyone's scores... more or less... increase the same amount if you take an average?

Like, unless all the males were scoring 100% and as such had no upwards mobility in said scores wouldn't they also see an increase in scores. Then I got to the paragraph here:
However, despite the intention being to lessen gender discrepancies, the main effect of the time increase appears to have been an increase in the number of 2:1s overall, with 2:2 figures falling. Men continued to be awarded more first class degrees than women in the two subjects.

Kinda lol at this though:
The lengthening of exams was welcomed by some female students. Antonia Siu, Undergraduate Representative of Oxford Women in Computer Science, said: "I am uneasy about schemes to favour one gender over another.
Then she goes on to say:

"But I am happy when people see gaps between groups of people who should not reasonably have such gaps - such as between genders, races or class - and take that as a starting point to think about the kinds of people they unintentionally are leaving behind."
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Oxford themselves saying that there ARE gaps between men and women simply BECAUSE, according to Oxford, women don't deal with time constraints as well?
 
What happened to equality?
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Change the rules to suits them. I bet they get super mad when someone asks why they can't hang in technical areas?

They want to have their cake and eat it, get to change the rules, but never admit "differences" (a deficiency/inferiority) that make them look bad. SJW over-emotional mental gymnastics.
 
What I think is happening:
- When they receive applications for computer science and mathematics, they are more likely to accept female candidates, even if they perform more poorly than other male candidates. In an effort to get that "50/50" we're told we need... because reasons.
- Instead of being 10% female, maybe the class is 20% or 30% female, with that added 10-20% of under-performing females
- Under-performing females underperform

Real situation: Women are on average less interested in object-oriented careers, leave it be
 
What I think is happening:
- When they receive applications for computer science and mathematics, they are more likely to accept female candidates, even if they perform more poorly than other male candidates. In an effort to get that "50/50" we're told we need... because reasons.
- Instead of being 10% female, maybe the class is 20% or 30% female, with that added 10-20% of under-performing females
- Under-performing females underperform

Real situation: Women are on average less interested in object-oriented careers, leave it be

So just another rung on the diversity hierarchy ladder university admissions only have themselves to blame for problems down the line.

Same shit different toilet.
 
You see, it's right there. Women earn less per hour because they do less per hour (lack of ability to understand how time works and adjust accordingly).

Thanks Oxford!
 
You see, it's right there. Women earn less per hour because they do less per hour (lack of ability to understand how time works and adjust accordingly).

Thanks Oxford!
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I wonder how far this is going to go before Professors and other faculty just throw up their hands and yell enough is enough. I'm speaking in general terms on college campuses worldwide not just this instance.
 
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Why not just say they are extending exam times by 15 minutes to help students? Why they gotta virtue signal for women?
 
Should be an equal time boost for both genders, imo.

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I wonder how far this is going to go before Professors and other faculty just throw up there hands and yell enough is enough. I'm speaking in general terms on college campuses worldwide not just this instance.

Seems like your teachers should've invested more time to teach you the difference between there and their, bud.
 
Why not just say they are extending exam times by 15 minutes to help students? Why they gotta virtue signal for women?

Bullshit. The mental capacity of men should not be tarnished because they're smarter than women.
 
Should be an equal time boost for both genders, imo.

The article isn't amazingly clear about that, but actually it is.
 
Should be an equal time boost for both genders, imo.



Seems like your teachers should've invested more time to teach you the difference between there and their, bud.
Jesus fuck that's embarrassing on my part.

I've had a real fucking issue typing today for some reason. Had one sentence earlier today in the WR where I meant to use the plural version of a word and didn't and reading back my post it sounded like some 8th grader in Japan's first attempt at writing an English sentence.

You still get my point though.


As to your first bit it SOUNDS like they just increased the time in general for both genders.
 
The article isn't amazingly clear about that, but actually it is.

Where does it say that? I must've missed it when I skimmed it the first time, but I still can't find it. Seems to me, and this student quoted in the article, that women are favored over men because of graduation rates:

The lengthening of exams was welcomed by some female students. Antonia Siu, Undergraduate Representative of Oxford Women in Computer Science, said: "I am uneasy about schemes to favour one gender over another."

Jesus fuck that's embarrassing on my part.

I've had a real fucking issue typing today for some reason. Had one sentence earlier today in the WR where I meant to use the plural version of a word and didn't and reading back my post it sounded like some 8th grader in Japan's first attempt at writing an English sentence.

You still get my point though.


As to your first bit it SOUNDS like they just increased the time in general for both genders.

Lol no worries greg I was just busting your balls
 
Where does it say that? I must've missed it when I skimmed it the first time, but I still can't find it. Seems to me, and this student quoted in the article, that women are favored over men because of graduation rates:

The lengthening of exams was welcomed by some female students. Antonia Siu, Undergraduate Representative of Oxford Women in Computer Science, said: "I am uneasy about schemes to favour one gender over another."

I think it's at this point:
However, despite the intention being to lessen gender discrepancies, the main effect of the time increase appears to have been an increase in the number of 2:1s overall, with 2:2 figures falling. Men continued to be awarded more first class degrees than women in the two subjects.

That to me implies both groups got the time increase.
 
I'm not going to pretend to be outraged over the decisions the Oxford faculty make. I'm pretty sure they are graduating pretty intelligent and capable people, regardless of this 15 minute increase in time for an exam.
 
Where does it say that? I must've missed it when I skimmed it the first time, but I still can't find it.

In the telegraph article, "Students taking maths and computer science examinations in the summer of 2017 were given an extra 15 minutes to complete their papers, after dons ruled that 'female candidates might be more likely to be adversely affected by time pressure'. There was no change to the length or difficulty of the questions." is a little ambiguous.

It's reported more clearly elsewhere though. That is still a policy which was designed to favour female students, but not by outright giving them more time than male students.
 
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