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Overeem's chance in Boxing?

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  1. Mumrik Silver Belt

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    It's pure speculation - of course he couldn't do it now.

    Ignoring the fact that he'd have needed to make them switch far earlier in his career to have a shot at gaining the skills, there are a few things about Overeem's physicque and general approach to striking that I don't see translating well to boxing:

    You should of course take this with a grain of salt. I'm not exactly a veteran boxing fan.

    1) His chin and toughness is mediocre, and while he isn't easy to KO cleanly, the wheels do tend to come off when he eats a big one.

    2) He is a big, tall, rangy dude, but his bread and butter is messing people up in close range. This makes all the comparisons to Wlad useless. Wlad who may or may not lack a chin fights at range and prevents exchanges. Dispite his reach advantage Overeem always does his best work withing the range of his opponents, which would make it infinitely harder to keep away from the big shots that shut him down.

    I guess his talents in the clinch wouldn't be completely lost though. If he'd be willing to accept the hit in popularity I'm sure he could drain his opponents quite a bit by clinching often and making them carry his weight.
     
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  2. jiml White Belt

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    a physically fit boxer..toney doesnt count...hes a joke to boxing>>>>>

    how many heavys now are a sure bet to beat tony?

    2, 3 maybe 4?
     
  3. nip102 Purple Belt

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    all the rings top ten plus a few more toney is done
     
  4. power-athlete pro sherdog poster

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    he wouldnt get past Alexander Dimitrenko (number 12.)

    or

    Denis Boytsov (number 14.)

    or

    Robert Helenius (number 16.) KOed Tony Gregory which was a K-1 fighter.


    Google those names or look up in youtube for their fights.. HW division might be weak for the Klitschkos but i dont believe that a Kickboxer will out box those three names to get in top 10.
     
  5. MMA Slam Yellow Belt

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    This..........
     
  6. philthy rich** Yellow Belt

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    like matt hughes chances in jiu jitsu
     
  7. chokeingvictim Brown Belt

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    if overeem started at a younger age in boxing he probally would be a top ten boxer right now

    but if he made the switch now the he could never fight top 60 talent and win they would have to carefully match him up and pad his record

    overeem would really have to hand pick guys to build wins in boxing

    vitali was a kickboxer who became a boxer but he made that switch at an earlier age
     
  8. chokeingvictim Brown Belt

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    vitali klitchko is a kickboxer but he switched to boxing at a earlier age theres youtube videos f vitali kickboxing

    of course overeem is not going to beat guys like alexander dimitrenko in boxing most boxers cant beat alexander dimetrenko

    but there are guys out there with proboxing licenses that overeem can beat and pad a record
     
  9. Frank23 Enter Sandman Belt Platinum Member

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    I don't think that he would be a top 20 Heavyweight boxer. However, I think that he could have a little success and make some $$$$$.
     
  10. Melilot Brown Belt

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    and none of those names make anywhere near as much as Overeem. unless he immediately gets to make klitschkoesque money there's no reason for him to leave k1/mma for boxing
     
  11. Bonos Black Belt

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    I'd bet they make more, and besides, they are making their way to title contention which can lead to $1 million + payday.
     
  12. Astro Man Kid Blackie

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    Overeem's boxing is actually pretty weak. He's not even the best boxer in kickboxing.

    I love Overeem, but I could see him compiling a winning record against nobodys, but kos anytime he challenged himself.
     
  13. philthy rich** Yellow Belt

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    the funny thing is they make much much more as weve seen time and time again
     
  14. Lazy Man Heavyweight Champion of the World

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    any proof? or are you using standard sherdog logic
     
  15. EpiCnz Orange Belt

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    orly
     
  16. consortium11 Slip The Jab

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    Off pretty much the top of my head with a little research that I can remember we have Veeraphol Sahaprom, Samart Payakaroon, Yokthai Sit Or, Saensak Mangsurin, Muangchai Kittikasem, Sirimongkol Singwangcha, Khaosai Galaxy, Kaokor Galaxy, Sot Chitalada, Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, Somsak Sithchatchawal and Somrak Khamsing.

    It's also worth noting that those are only the Thai's who have achieved something in boxing... I'm sure if I went down the levels there'd be more.
     
  17. cabal Brown Belt

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    At this point he cannot establish himself about the journeyman level..he would gas in a for rounds and be outpointed or ko in the late rounds by too many professional hw.
     
  18. mastery Banned Banned

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    chances are not that good
     
  19. AppState08 Brown Belt

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    Honestly he could do well... Hes fast, strong and already knows how to punch. I have already thought about this.
     
  20. Iron Mang I keep planets in orbit, baby!

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    I honestly think Overeem could do well, with the right training. He'd have to start slow like any up and coming fighter and start at 6 rounders, eventually moving up to 12 rounders. He has great power now with kickboxing technique, and if he acclimates to boxing technique well, his power would increase drastically. Power comes from throwing punches accurately and properly. He would have to be dedicated 150% though. No cross-training at all with K1 or MMA.

    Overeem with Manny Steward would be sweet. He'd have him work that jab protecting his chin and finding openings for a right hand down the pipe. This is all fantasy though, it will never happen.
     

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