Overeem's chance in Boxing?

[Mumrik]

It's pure speculation - of course he couldn't do it now.

Ignoring the fact that he'd have needed to make them switch far earlier in his career to have a shot at gaining the skills, there are a few things about Overeem's physicque and general approach to striking that I don't see translating well to boxing:

You should of course take this with a grain of salt. I'm not exactly a veteran boxing fan.

1) His chin and toughness is mediocre, and while he isn't easy to KO cleanly, the wheels do tend to come off when he eats a big one.

2) He is a big, tall, rangy dude, but his bread and butter is messing people up in close range. This makes all the comparisons to Wlad useless. Wlad who may or may not lack a chin fights at range and prevents exchanges. Dispite his reach advantage Overeem always does his best work withing the range of his opponents, which would make it infinitely harder to keep away from the big shots that shut him down.

I guess his talents in the clinch wouldn't be completely lost though. If he'd be willing to accept the hit in popularity I'm sure he could drain his opponents quite a bit by clinching often and making them carry his weight.

 

[jiml]

a physically fit boxer..toney doesnt count...hes a joke to boxing>>>>>

how many heavys now are a sure bet to beat tony?

2, 3 maybe 4?

 

[nip102]

a physically fit boxer..toney doesnt count...hes a joke to boxing>>>>>

how many heavys now are a sure bet to beat tony?

2, 3 maybe 4?

all the rings top ten plus a few more toney is done

 

[power-athlete]

he wouldnt get past Alexander Dimitrenko (number 12.)

or

Denis Boytsov (number 14.)

or

Robert Helenius (number 16.) KOed Tony Gregory which was a K-1 fighter.


Google those names or look up in youtube for their fights.. HW division might be weak for the Klitschkos but i dont believe that a Kickboxer will out box those three names to get in top 10.

 

[MMA Slam]

If he started Boxing from an early age he could likely be a top Boxer. He is an amazing athlete with alot of natural talent.

However as of right now I doubt it. Tooling Ben Edwards with overhand rights and counter hooks and competing with the likes of David Haye and the Klitschko brothers are two different things.
I don't think any MMA fighter or Kickboxer has the technical Boxing skills to be a top Boxer. This is because they did not start Boxing at an early age. Cross-training in Boxing and being a specialist require different levels of dedication. This theory could be tested if some MMA fighters tried to make the transition.

This..........

 

[philthy rich**]

like matt hughes chances in jiu jitsu

 

[chokeingvictim]

if overeem started at a younger age in boxing he probally would be a top ten boxer right now

but if he made the switch now the he could never fight top 60 talent and win they would have to carefully match him up and pad his record

overeem would really have to hand pick guys to build wins in boxing

vitali was a kickboxer who became a boxer but he made that switch at an earlier age

 

[chokeingvictim]

he wouldnt get past Alexander Dimitrenko (number 12.)

or

Denis Boytsov (number 14.)

or

Robert Helenius (number 16.) KOed Tony Gregory which was a K-1 fighter.


Google those names or look up in youtube for their fights.. HW division might be weak for the Klitschkos but i dont believe that a Kickboxer will out box those three names to get in top 10.

vitali klitchko is a kickboxer but he switched to boxing at a earlier age theres youtube videos f vitali kickboxing

of course overeem is not going to beat guys like alexander dimitrenko in boxing most boxers cant beat alexander dimetrenko

but there are guys out there with proboxing licenses that overeem can beat and pad a record

 

[Frank23]

I don't think that he would be a top 20 Heavyweight boxer. However, I think that he could have a little success and make some $$$$$.

 

[Melilot]

he wouldnt get past Alexander Dimitrenko (number 12.)

or

Denis Boytsov (number 14.)

or

Robert Helenius (number 16.) KOed Tony Gregory which was a K-1 fighter.


Google those names or look up in youtube for their fights.. HW division might be weak for the Klitschkos but i dont believe that a Kickboxer will out box those three names to get in top 10.

and none of those names make anywhere near as much as Overeem. unless he immediately gets to make klitschkoesque money there's no reason for him to leave k1/mma for boxing

 

[Bonos]

and none of those names make anywhere near as much as Overeem. unless he immediately gets to make klitschkoesque money there's no reason for him to leave k1/mma for boxing

I'd bet they make more, and besides, they are making their way to title contention which can lead to $1 million + payday.

 

[Astro Man]

Overeem's boxing is actually pretty weak. He's not even the best boxer in kickboxing.

I love Overeem, but I could see him compiling a winning record against nobodys, but kos anytime he challenged himself.

 

[philthy rich**]

and none of those names make anywhere near as much as Overeem. unless he immediately gets to make klitschkoesque money there's no reason for him to leave k1/mma for boxing

the funny thing is they make much much more as weve seen time and time again

 

[Lazy Man]

and none of those names make anywhere near as much as Overeem. unless he immediately gets to make klitschkoesque money there's no reason for him to leave k1/mma for boxing

any proof? or are you using standard sherdog logic

 

[EpiCnz]

I dunno. A guy like David Tua can do well as a HW. From a pure skill stand point, he's not that much better than Overeem.

orly

 

[consortium11]

I was more referring to K1 guys that switched to boxing .I think Bernardo retired in 2004 from K1 and his last boxing bout was in 2001 . By the way i never knew Bernardo held a WBF World heavyweight title,something that now belongs to Holyfield

Which Thais went into boxing from Mt??





I agree 100%.

Off pretty much the top of my head with a little research that I can remember we have Veeraphol Sahaprom, Samart Payakaroon, Yokthai Sit Or, Saensak Mangsurin, Muangchai Kittikasem, Sirimongkol Singwangcha, Khaosai Galaxy, Kaokor Galaxy, Sot Chitalada, Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, Somsak Sithchatchawal and Somrak Khamsing.

It's also worth noting that those are only the Thai's who have achieved something in boxing... I'm sure if I went down the levels there'd be more.

 

[cabal]

At this point he cannot establish himself about the journeyman level..he would gas in a for rounds and be outpointed or ko in the late rounds by too many professional hw.

 

[mastery]

chances are not that good

 

[AppState08]

Honestly he could do well... Hes fast, strong and already knows how to punch. I have already thought about this.

 

[Iron Mang]

I honestly think Overeem could do well, with the right training. He'd have to start slow like any up and coming fighter and start at 6 rounders, eventually moving up to 12 rounders. He has great power now with kickboxing technique, and if he acclimates to boxing technique well, his power would increase drastically. Power comes from throwing punches accurately and properly. He would have to be dedicated 150% though. No cross-training at all with K1 or MMA.

Overeem with Manny Steward would be sweet. He'd have him work that jab protecting his chin and finding openings for a right hand down the pipe. This is all fantasy though, it will never happen.