Economy Over 11,000 Texas farmers ask for government bailout due to Trumps tariffs

[Ophydian]

You like polyester, motherfucker? You low class trash.

Come on man you are ready apologize for your faux pas I hadn’t seen that apology when I made my posts stop with the polyester it was funny that you had no clue what this thread was about

 

[58miles]

Time for welfare!

Yes! Welfare for real muricans!!!

 

[Based and White Pilled]

The problem is much deeper than this. It's the Farmer himself, and his culture of begging for handouts. What we really need to do is be tough on farmers to teach them self-reliance.

Well.. there has been an oversupply of many American grown crops recently, so teaching these farmers the basics of business might not be a bad idea.

Seriously, I think most people looking at this as hypocritical are intentionally missing the concept that helping someone who is working but failing is significantly different than helping someone who isn't working at all. I think most conservatives are much more opposed to helping the guy who doesn't work at all.

I'm not opposed to most forms of welfare, btw. I just think intellectual dishonesty/straw man arguments are lame.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Yes! Welfare for real muricans!!!

Once he gets his farmers welfare maybe he can plant some bootstrap trees.

 

[BudKing8806]

Come on man you are ready apologize for your faux pas I hadn’t seen that apology when I made my posts stop with the polyester it was funny that you had no clue what this thread was about

I'm just messing with ya bud! And yeah, I guess the jokes on me lol.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Instead of welfare for farmers we should let the market sort it out or we will become socialists

 

[58miles]

Instead of welfare for farmers we should let the market sort ot out.

Exactly how are these farmers ever going to stand on their own 2 feet if the government is always there to bail him out. Besides these farmers can't figure out to compete in the global marketplace maybe they should go back to school and learn a new skill?

 

[Rational Poster]

ITT; The sickly, weak and unproductive left wing trolls bash the people who produce their food and actually create a product through hard work.

They're not actually creating much except fields of dead crops no one wants to buy because of the tariffs.

 

[Rational Poster]

Exactly how are these farmers ever going to stand on their own 2 feet if the government is always there to bail him out. Besides these farmers can't figure out to compete in the global marketplace maybe they should go back to school and learn a new skill?

I don't think there is another profession more appropriate to tell to pull themselves up by their bootstraps but for whatever reason they're one of the few professions fully subsidized by the US government even when their market doesn't exist in reality.

 

[Ophydian]

I'm just messing with ya bud! And yeah, I guess the jokes on me lol.

It was classic man glad you’re a good sport about it.

 

[octopus]

ITT; The sickly, weak and unproductive left wing trolls bash the people who produce their food and actually create a product through hard work.

Also I don't think they realize that corporations/big ag are not only responsible for the climate of farming(making it much less profitable) but like all corporations are abusing the system from many angles(subsidies, welfare, favorable laws) and are probably the ones responsible(as opposed to the anti-welfare redneck) for these atrocious numbers.

 

[Rational Poster]

Also I don't think they realize that corporations/big ag are not only responsible for the climate of farming(making it much less profitable) but like all corporations are abusing the system from many angles(subsidies, welfare, favorable laws) and are probably the ones responsible(as opposed to the anti-welfare redneck) for these atrocious numbers.

So we need to subsidize the failing farms to protect them from the successful farms?

 

[7437]

Can you though? If 40% of dairy farmers "got a real job" you might not buy shit. If you did, I'm sure it would be at a higher price than what it currently is. You city folk would be the first to die in the event of a national crisis.

I'm ok paying a higher price if that is what the product costs. The producers who arent incompetant will make more, that's how supply and demand works.


Or we can just have them paid out of our tax money. Should probably do that for everyone really. That way everyone produces and the state will be the only one paying everyone, according to their needs. What's that called again?

 

[Limbo Pete]

Also read somewhere that we have this huge stash of cheese in storage cause we can't stop producing milk apparently...

but you know... ... wait I don't know...

Government cheese is a special kind of foul
It will outlast us all though

 

[octopus]

So we need to subsidize the failing farms to protect them from the successful farms?

No? Maybe I shouldn't of opened with that sentance cause I can see how I led you there. I think there's a chance this is corporations doing what they do and lining their pockets as cotton is impossible to profit from without big money/corruption. My uncle in law owns a hundred acres and he gets 3,000 per acre after he pays whatever biotech company their share. I used to get 3,000 for a 5x5 canopy of cannabis, my point is, these corporations are making money from all sides with minimal risk.

 

[nicapica]

Hopefully these farmers stop farming all together. We could use a few less people eating in this country. The population is out of control.

the man tit problem is ridiculous in this country.

 

[Rational Poster]

No? Maybe I shouldn't of opened with that sentance cause I can see how I led you there. I think there's a chance this is corporations doing what they do and lining their pockets as cotton is impossible to profit from without big money/corruption. My uncle in law owns a hundred acres and he gets 3,000 per acre after he pays whatever biotech company their share. I used to get 3,000 for a 5x5 canopy of cannabis, my point is, these corporations are making money from all sides with minimal risk.

So you're saying farm subsidies, especially corporate, are bad then, right?

 

[BudKing8806]

I'm ok paying a higher price if that is what the product costs. The producers who arent incompetant will make more, that's how supply and demand works.


Or we can just have them paid out of our tax money. Should probably do that for everyone really. That way everyone produces and the state will be the only one paying everyone, according to their needs. What's that called again?

I understand what you're saying. But honestly, I don't think most farmers would do anything else even if they don't reeceir a bailout. Most of them grew up doing it and don't want to do anything else. But I do think farming is a bit different because there are variables in production. It is not as simple as "that is a shitty farmer, he didn't produce much of anything". You have to consider climate as well. If a farmer has his crops drown or if it is too wet in the fields to harvest on time that will have an effect on yields. I don't know how I feel about the bailout, tbh.

 

[octopus]

So you're saying farm subsidies, especially corporate, are bad then, right?

Definitely. But what I was actually trying to say is it looks like our toothless brethern are taking the blame for this when it's probably caused by our corporate overlords.

 

[Sketch]

They're not actually creating much except fields of dead crops no one wants to buy because of the tariffs.

A little tiny man like you could never do their jobs. And you can bash them all you like. We should all support small farmers. But hey, enjoy your futuristic corporate farms spraying Monsanto products all over your soybeans.