Ouchi Gari, no gi.

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by wildcard_seven, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. wildcard_seven Purple Belt

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    I've been working the major inner reap from a head and neck tie. Basically, from the position where me and my opponent both have the head and tricep, I will pull him forward then push back and drop in deep to snap his leg. I have had a little success with this. But, I was wondering if anybody could help me make it a little better. Basically, I do it just as described above, no other technical details. So, if you can add something, that would be cool.
     
  2. So you're moving into him as he is going back. That probably gives him a good lot of time to react.

    I don't use it much, usually off a failed uchimata. What i do is grab a wrist with one hand. I underhook the other arm and try and bring up my fist up across his throat neck. Pushing my fist in gives me a kuzushi (balance break) similar to the one i use with the gi. It's not that effective but works sometimes

    Karo might be more help http://www.groundfighter.com/uploads/videos/Karo Parisyan Judo 2 Ouchi Gari.WMV

    He has a whole dvd on Ouchi.
     
  3. wildcard_seven Purple Belt

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    I like the advice, makes sense. So i should pull him in and then go for it while he's coming in? If you are a judo vet, maybe that underhook works for you, but in submission grappling-where people are in hunched wrestling posture with their elbows in, I find it extremely hard to get an underhook. I like the video clip too, but same thing, I think it works better for MMA where people keep a more upright posture. Although, If you have any tips for getting the underhook on people in this wrasslin' position, I'm all ears.
     
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    I use it no gi much more effectively as the old wrestling inside trip. Let me find a link...
     
  5. I'd pull out the arm i'm grabbing the wrist with out to the side. He'll usuallly pull back when i tug. That'll mean he has transferred his weight onto a single legwhich you then reap while pushing him back/offbalancing with the fist across the throat.

    I'm mostly judo for standup grappling, so wrestling guys may be more helpful.
     
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    please. I'd like to see this trip.
     
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    Hmm. Still, that helps me picture the motion a lot better. Sounds cool to me.
     
  8. Balto Silver Belt

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    Disclaimer: My standing judo throws are pretty sucky.

    That being said, I use ouchi-gari the same way as you described. However, I rarely use it with the intent to actually get the takedown. On rare occasions I will, but usually the person defends. As far as I understand, this is usually the case in judo as well.

    I think most judoka use ouchi-gari more as a setup than a finish. I think of it like a boxing jab. It is not a very risky throw to attempt (at least not compared to osoto-gari or the hip throws). However, it usually doesn't finish the job either. I use it to force the opponent to defend and give up another opening.

    I don't know if that was much help. But that is how I use ouchi-gari.
     

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