Opinion of Judges' Decision for the Ray Borg/Casey Kenney Fight?

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  1. Leonard Haid

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    Ray Borg is outraged that the judges gave the win to Kenney.
     
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    Rays had an extremely difficult year and a half, sucked to see him get stiffed by the judges
     
  3. Michael LDN

    Michael LDN Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Not great
    The fact borg missed weight even though the other guy took it on short notice probably played a factor.

    I feel for borg but I don’t know what else to say, I think he should get cut. He’s a liability and is losing, missing weight and pulling out of fights.
     
  4. EndlessCritic

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    Rounds 2 and 3 in a nutshell:

    Borg takes Casey down. Casey gives his back. Borg tries to put in the hooks. Casey reverses him to get on top. Borg reverses to his feet and gets another takedown. Rinse and repeat.

    Borg was the one attacking the whole time, and trying to achieve dominant positions. All Casey did was escape Borg's dominant positions.

    It's a bad decision for the sport of MMA because it encourages conservative fighting, and discourages any risk taking.
     
  5. SeattleFightFan

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    First and third rounds were close. No one should be surprised anymore when close rounds go a different way than one personally thinks they should.

    I thought Borg won. But I cannot argue very hard with those who scored both rounds 1 and 3 against him.
     
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    Everybody watching the fight was upset at the judging. The crowd made their feelings known. It was a horrible decision. I would have been 10/12 if not for that bullshit.
     
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    Good, fuck em
     
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    29-28 Borg, but he missed weight so I don't feel too bad for him.
     
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    You seem to be confused. The judges gave Borg round 3. The issue with the decision is that all three judges gave Kenney round 2.

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    Shit decision that fucked my parley. Was confident when it ended too. Boo'd vociferously with the rest of the crowd.
     
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    Borg is unprofessional
     
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    He actually made weight. No one takes into account the 2 and half pounds of glass in his eye..
     
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    Lol wow, I sure am!

    But mostly, I don’t get up in arms about decisions within competitive rounds anymore. I’ve just seen too many. If I were on a committee to change things, I would care more. But as just another fan, I just simply cannot bring myself to get outraged anymore.

    I’m not sure when exactly it happened, but one judge giving Edgar 50-45 v Penn I was a memorable straw that broke the camels back. Probably not the first or the last, but a memorable one. And that was almost a decade ago.
     
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    32-17 for Kenney on strikes and he spent more time on top. Borg spent more time holding Kenney against the cage and got more takedowns, not sure how everything is scored and the judges clearly aren't either.
     
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    Bad, Borg shudda won
     
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    I had Kenney 29-28.

    Saw several judges scores I couldnt make sense of last night.
     
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    I watched Joe Warren vs Marcos Galvao 1 with an old roommate. I had hyped Warren up as this great international level wrestler. My roommate walked away from the fight thinking I was an idiot, and MMA was fixed. Still one of the worst robberies in MMA history.

    Then again, he also watched Pettis vs Benson 1 with me, and didn't think it was that great. Some people will just never be fans of MMA.
     
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    That's the kinda shit that happens to manlets who miss weight
     
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    who cares about flyweights
     
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    This is my general opinion as well.

    People are irritated with Borg because he missed weight, and its not his first time. Obviously its unprofessional and he paid for that with 30% of his purse. It shouldn't have anything to do with how the fight is scored.

    Borg attacked consistently the last two rounds and clearly had more success. Those were not hard rounds to score.

    Really bad decision and its bad for the sport when this happens.
     
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