Opening the close guard standing or sitting?

[kenpeters8]

What do you prefer to opening the close guard by? Standing or sitting?

 

[Balto]

I do both, but the best trick I ever learned was don't have to open in the first place.

Just avoiding closed guard in general is a good strategy and a lot more feasible than it seems at first. Most guys just kind of go into it. If you refuse to allow it, it's actually a pretty tough position for the other guy to establish on you.

 

[TheHereticJay]

I do both, but the best trick I ever learned was don't have to open in the first place.

Just avoiding closed guard in general is a good strategy and a lot more feasible than it seems at first. Most guys just kind of go into it. If you refuse to allow it, it's actually a pretty tough position for the other guy to establish on you.

Jesus christ, this! When i'm on the ground and anywhere near a guard, my knee is glued to my chest or, if it's gi, i want the bottom leg glued to the ground from a pant grip. I see getting put in a closed guard as a small defeat.

That being said...when it does happen, I always do a break that has me stand at some point during the break.

 

[winterbike]

That being said...when it does happen, I always do a break that has me stand at some point during the break.

Same here. Standing = gravity is on your side, and the other dude has to work a lot harder to keep his legs closed.

 

[rmongler]

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[SummerStriker]

Standing every time for me. It is so much work to pry someone's legs apart while kneeling. I think it is a lot easier to stand and do it.

 

[EndlessCritic]

so easy to stand, lift the guy off the ground, and then shake his hips down off of you.

 

[Balto]

It is easy to break standing, but the problem there is not the breaking itself. It's getting stuck in a bad open guard after you break. Then you get in trouble.

Breaking low usually puts you in a better spot. It's harder to break low, but the Tozi pass works for me. The chance of ending up in a bad position after breaking from there is next to zero.

 

[SummerStriker]

It is easy to break standing, but the problem there is not the breaking itself. It's getting stuck in a bad open guard after you break. Then you get in trouble.

Breaking low usually puts you in a better spot. It's harder to break low, but the Tozi pass works for me. The chance of ending up in a bad position after breaking from there is next to zero.

Sometimes I break standing, and then just drop immediately into combat base. Usually people will immediately go for DLR, so knowing it is coming I can stop it and go for like a double under pass or something.

 

[Knock Out Ned]

Standing, always standing.

 

[kenpeters8]

For the people that say always standing, would you do the same for no-gi also? Just wondering.

 

[SummerStriker]

For the people that say always standing, would you do the same for no-gi also? Just wondering.

I barely do anything gi that I don't do no gi. I do virtually all my drilling no gi.

I usually baseball bat grip one wrist with both hands and stand on that side first.

 

[kenpeters8]

I barely do anything gi that I don't do no gi. I do virtually all my drilling no gi.

I usually baseball bat grip one wrist with both hands and stand on that side first.

Yea, that's usually what I do when I'm standing up to break close guard in no-gi. In gi, I just grab the sleeve first before I stand up.

 

[Uchi Mata]

I do both, but the best trick I ever learned was don't have to open in the first place.

Just avoiding closed guard in general is a good strategy and a lot more feasible than it seems at first. Most guys just kind of go into it. If you refuse to allow it, it's actually a pretty tough position for the other guy to establish on you.

I generally either stand or Sao Paulo pass, but Balto is right. Prevention is the best solution.

One reason it always cracks me up when people say closed guard doesn't work at high levels because they don't see a lot of it is that it ignores how hard top guys will work to prevent closed guard. It's a bitch to break the guard of a good black belt. I had a world champion tell me to just never allow it if possible. If nothing else, the energy it takes to deal with closed guard is going to make later rounds hell.