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Ontario Judges Lambasting Toronto South Detention Centre

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  1. EndlessCritic Steel Belt

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    The Toronto South Detention Centre has quickly become Canada's most notorious jail, which holds many non-convicted accused while they await trial.

    The facility is notoriously short staffed, and the jail's solution is to simply hold the prisoners in solitary confinement while they await trial. Justice Schreck recently sentenced a man to 9 years in prison, but reduced the sentence to 33 months because the jail conditions were so bad while he was awaiting trial: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2020/2020onsc188/2020onsc188.html

    "Mr. Persad was locked down for 47% of the time he was at the TSDC. During those periods, he was confined to his cell and sometimes went for days without access to a telephone, shower or fresh air. The reason for the vast majority of the lockdowns was staffing shortages. The problem of frequent lockdowns due to staff shortages has been the subject of repeated expressions of concern by the judiciary over the past four years to the effect that the conditions at the TSDC are inhumane and fail to comport with basic standards of human decency. It has become clear that the Ministry of the Solicitor General, which is responsible for the operation of the TSDC, has chosen to ignore that judicial condemnation."

    The stories keep on coming.

    https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2020/2020onsc232/2020onsc232.html
    https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...security-gown-without-socks-or-underwear.html

    For the first day of his murder trial, the Toronto South Detention Centre sent an accused to trial in a "security gown".

    "The scene with Mr. Baichoo sitting in the prisoner’s box covered by the security gown bore little resemblance to a Canadian courtroom. A reasonable observer with no knowledge of our usual procedures or juridical culture, seeing Mr. Baichoo sitting in the prisoner’s box in the security gown, could only have concluded that the justice system goes to great pains to thoroughly humiliate those accused of serious crimes. Such an observer could only anticipate with horror what the next step for Mr. Baichoo would be.

    This spectacle was profoundly troubling. A prisoner has probably never appeared in Brampton Superior Court in only a security gown, let alone on the first day of his murder trial. It has happened on rare occasions in the Ontario Court of Justice for brief appearances in bail court or assignment court."

    And why was he in a security gown? Well, because he tested positive for contraband in a scanner. And how did the police know he had tested for contraband?

    "[32] The scanned images of Mr. Baichoo in which contraband was said to be visible were projected in court as part of Sgt. Munir’s evidence. The first scan shown purportedly displaying contraband was the one from the day before, January 29, 2019 at 8:32 a.m. Over several pages of transcript, detailed questions were asked by Mr. Whitehead and answers given by Sgt. Munir. The contraband was identified in the projected scan and there was some discussion of what it might have been. It was reiterated that it was not a weapon. A weapon would show up as a distinct and clear shape.

    [33] A second scan was then shown on the screen in court. This one was said to be taken after the first one. Sgt. Munir pointing to it, testified that the contraband was not as concentrated as it in the previous image, it has been broken apart to make it look smaller in an effort to attempt to deceive the scanner. According to his evidence, to make it smaller, Mr. Baichoo would have had to take it out of his rectum, get rid of some of the contraband, and re-insert it. In Sgt. Munir’s view, the contraband was changing size. It now had a “tail” on it.

    [34] When questions were asked about why the stamped time on the second scan was the same as on the first scan, Sgt. Munir testified that it might just have been the time it was saved on the computer. However, these questions led Sgt. Munir to realize that the true answer was that this image was actually the same as the first scan. They were the exact same image. Sgt. Munir had merely changed the exposure slightly on the second image to highlight some aspects of it. It appeared lighter but it was the same photographic image. He had forgotten that he had done this.

    [35] Sgt. Munir admitted that he had made a mistake. The contraband had not been moved, it had not become smaller, there was not a tail on it now when before there had not been. It was the exact same.

    [36] This was not a momentary lapse. Sgt. Munir is one of the most experienced officers at TSDC in reading scans. Yet he spent considerable time in court labouring over the second image and explaining how it showed some major differences. It was only when it was pointed out to him that the digital times recorded on the images were the same that he became aware of his error.

    [37] This was a persuasive demonstration of the unreliability of the reading of body scans."

    Canada's jails are being run by clowns.
     
  2. Rygu R.I.P. Obie Platinum Member

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    Well the country is being run by a clown so not surprised.
     
  3. Sketch (҂`_´) <,︻╦╤─ ҉ - - - Double Yellow Card

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    That jail is used to house a lot of gang members. And it’s an open concept jail where guards walk around with the inmates. Guards have been attacked very badly, in fact they even had a walk out and went on strike because of it. This will continue until the jail is closed or redesigned.

    Also obligatory; Free all the dogs and the demons that’s what it B like
     
  4. Crono7 GET TO THE CHOPPA

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    Fuck those inmates. Of course they lock down the jail, if an inmate hits a correctional officer there is no punishment. It happened so often that staff walked out.
    In the States you touch staff time is added to your stay.

    I love how people defend scum, until it's their friend or family that are victims.
     
  5. Wet Blanket Bipartisan GIF Machine

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    Our jails are brutal and staffed by a lot of evil people.
     
  6. Greta Banned Banned

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    They should arm the guards with 5.56 rifles and shotguns loaded with birdshot like in some US prisons, to see if the violence against the guards stops.
     
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    I believe what you’re saying because the article says they have staff shortages

    That tends to happen when your system is so poorly run you can’t even pay people to do the job. Same thing is happening in my state.
     
  8. tramendous Silver Belt

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    Either you value innocent until proven guilty or you don't
     
  9. cincymma79 Gold Belt

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    They’re hiring
     
  10. ultramanhyata Reclimbing Like Mountain

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    But I thought Justin was a soft-on-crime cuck who wanted criminals to have more rights than law-abiding citizens???? At least that's the picture all the Canadian right-wing'ers have been painting here...
     
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    We don’t have prison in Canada for serious crimes we mostly have adult daycares.
     
  12. JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

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    Its not a federal prison -- he has no say
     
  13. tramendous Silver Belt

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    Well, I'm glad to see all Canadian institutions haven't yet been fully cuckified by your Cuck King.

    Also... And this just dawns on me... Have you ever noticed how much similarity the word "cuck" has with the word "Canuck"??

    It's almost like your demise as a nation was written into the universe or something...
     
  15. ultramanhyata Reclimbing Like Mountain

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    I think Cincy had yet another seizure mid-post... It's a pattern with the guy. Hopefully he has had an MRI and is getting treatment for the condition. I also hope he is wearing his helmet at all times.
     
  16. JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

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    Just noticing that, eh.
     
  17. ultramanhyata Reclimbing Like Mountain

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    Also, jokes aside, condolences on the loss of a great countryman. I grew up with Rush and their music will always have a special place in my heart.
     
  18. JudoThrowFiasco Charming Quark Platinum Member

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    Neil was an interesting and talented dude, for sure.

    My militant guitar teacher made me constantly practice La Villa Strangiato and that kind of made me go away from liking Rush so much --but they are Neil are legends
     
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  19. AnGrYcRoW I've done .... questionable things .

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    It's sounds like you've never known anyone who has done real time .
     
  20. Wet Blanket Bipartisan GIF Machine

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    I know he was a a great drummer and that tons of people love Rush....

    But god damn that band sucks. I am honestly surprised when people tell me they listen to the band on purpose.
     

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