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One more reason local funding for public schools needs to change.

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  1. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Public schools have become a pet interest of mine since I had a kid. I'm frequently surprised by the general failings of our system to properly educate the poorest among us. The quality of teachers, facilities, etc. are all directly proportional to the wealth of the surrounding neighborhoods.

    Now, I live in a solid neighborhood with parents who send their kids to $30k preschools (which is insane to me) and $40k elementary schools. But I'm a product of public schools and think we need to take them more seriously.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...under-investment-in-nations-school-buildings/
    http://www.oecd.org/edu/innovation-education/disparitiesinspendingonuspublicschoolfacilities.htm
     
  2. JDragon Lawn and Order!

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    This is something that is directly related to educational success, poverty and inequality. In 1999, I spent one day each in a Rhode Island public school and in a Catholic private school (25k at the time). The differences could not have been more profound. One was a regular high school, the other felt like going to Hogwarts and included the stereotypical Principal with a miniature golf putting thingy in his office (I kid you not).

    This is a cancer to society, because if you only get a decent education if you have the money, the very idea that legitimizes economic inequality - equality of opportunity - goes out the window. Thus it very clearly is in the interest of a society to have public schools that are funded well. Public school funding should be a state issue.
     
  3. uncommon Brown Belt

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    You can start by criticizing teachers who unionize to grab an increasing share of wealth that is available to the kids.

    "Like taking candy from a baby"
     
  4. lilelvis Black Belt Platinum Member

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    I'm not versed on this by any means, but it seems like a damned if you do/if you don't situation. Inner city folks fight for control of their own institutions and they generally fail dismally. How do you govern communities that don't want to be governed?
     
  5. ripskater Guest

    You get out of school what you put into it. It doesn't matter if you go to school in a 1 room schoolhouse.

    The problem with schools today is the kids. And the parents.

    That's why they call it "Schrewl" A whole lot of screwing around and little learning.

    They give the kids Ipads and they just use them for porn and surfing.
     
  6. Denter Silver Belt

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    How do these two ideas follow from one another.
     
  7. berimBOWLoh Silver Belt

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    come on guys, building schools isnt exciting.


    make this thread about some war machine shit like planes, guns, bombs n shit and you will get the hill billies excited to have their $ spent.


    spending it on their kids education and the future of the country?? aint nobody got time for that!!!
     
  8. lilelvis Black Belt Platinum Member

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    BTW, that hottie in your av is nine kinds of fine.
     
  9. ripskater Guest

    That's his wife. You better watch your back now;)
     
  10. HunterSdVa29 Respect, tho Platinum Member

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    have to be a Constitutional Amendment then right? as it's not enumerated, it's a Reserve Power left up to the states. They then fund w/ both Federal Block Grants and local property taxes, producing the unequal system we have now.

    Make it a Federal power, or at least a Mandated State power w/ guidelines and stipulations on how the money is allocated, where it comes from, etc...

    This is perhaps the one 'redistribution' policy I am completely for.
     
  11. JDragon Lawn and Order!

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    How do they not?
     
  12. Mark Hunts FIST Black Belt

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    Richer neighborhoods will ALWAYS have better schooling.

    No law will ever prevent people with money from Investing in their childs future.


    Regarding private schools, um, we shouldnt compare schools that cost 30k a year to public schools.

    Also, the more money a family has, the more likely you have housewives with no job,with plenty of time to volunteer and be involved.

    Parent involvement is waaaaaay more important than the building, imo.
     
  13. Greoric Banned Banned

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    Imagine that, another sector funded, regulated, and operated by government is shit. Are we starting to see a pattern here WR? Probably not.The normalcy bias is strong with you!
     
  14. HunterSdVa29 Respect, tho Platinum Member

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    which is true, but the odds of even having two parents in a low income area......aren't good. Which means one parent is a mooch, stay at home scrub, or works to support the kids and doesn't have much time to help....

    At least if you give them newer books/equipment, and optimal teacher to student ratios, you can say 'we tried'......

    as it is now, the effort isn't really there. I live in 29 Palms, the poorest city in one of the poorest counties in Cali (biggest county landwise in the entire US)......these schools suck balls. But you're right, it didn't effect me much, b/c I had the drive and desire to achieve. The rest of these homies though.......lost in the sauce
     
  15. bobgeese Steel Belt

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    It has very little to do with the building, and to a certain extent, the teachers. It has everything to do with the parents involvement/interest in the child's education.
     
  16. Cubo de Sangre President of the War Room

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    Home schooling for the win.
     
  17. Losfer Words Brown Belt

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    If the child isn't eating on the regular and sleeping in a safe place then he/she isn't going to learn much in school.
     
  18. lifelessheap Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    When parents don't give a shit their children don't give a shit. Schools with awful students are failing because the parents are pieces of shit.

    Don't blame the schools, and don't force me to pay extra for students who don't even give a fuck. Baltimore spends more money on their students than pretty much any city in the US, and their students still suck ass because the parents are shit. Baltimore has swallowed tens of billions of federal aide and the place is still a hell hole. No amount of money can fix broken culture.
     
  19. UpaLoompa Grand Quasiprophet of the Sakaran Apocolyps

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    You realize it is largely local control, right?
     
  20. Greoric Banned Banned

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    Yes. It's only saving grace. Imagine the complete lack of control parents would have if it were federalized.
     

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