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Takes Two To Tango said:
Folding the full house is insane. Could very well be the greatest fold I've ever seen.



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I assume you are speaking to the hand where the person folded Ace Queen, (Full house Queens over Aces) to the person who had Ace Ace (Full house Aces over Queens)...

The statement i will make next will drive non poker players nuts and is the biggest concept one needs to understand to become a successful poked player...

To be successful at poker the main thing you have to shed yourself of is a concept called 'Results Based Thinking'.

THAT WAS A BAD FOLD even though it gave her the correct result for that hand.

You always know who the worst players are at a poker table when they say 'Good Call' or 'Good Fold', based on results based thinking.

A call, that sees you win, when you spike a one outer to come from behind is not a 'good call' because you won. Same for a fold where you fold a monster out of fear of a bigger monster, when there are other big hands you beat they would go all in with, that turns out correct.

Poker is a marathon and not a sprint and to be successful you have to go with the Call or Fold that will give you repeatable wins based on the odds, and not be chasing the 'outlier' wins that defy the odds, but look great when they pay off.

But yes, it is fun to watch those outlier wins :}
 
Didn't Vanessa Russo call a bluff with like a Jack-high, a few years back?
 
Shit happens all the time at your local casino. I was once beat by extremely low odds at an all day tournament in downtown Vegas on the final table. His odds were less than 1% after the flop, but he caught runner, runner 10s (he had off suit K,10) and took out my pocket ace's. I truly believe if it wasn't for that I would have won or at least gone heads up at the end since I would have been the chip leader at that point and I play better with less people on the table. I forgot what 1st place was, but I would have won somewhere in the high 4 figures. I ended up making a few hundred at least and the next day I made like $800 on a limit table.
 
ChosenOne said:
I assume you are speaking to the hand where the person folded Ace Queen, (Full house Queens over Aces) to the person who had Ace Ace (Full house Aces over Queens)...

The statement i will make next will drive non poker players nuts and is the biggest concept one needs to understand to become a successful poked player...

To be successful at poker the main thing you have to shed yourself of is a concept called 'Results Based Thinking'.

THAT WAS A BAD FOLD even though it gave her the correct result for that hand.

You always know who the worst players are at a poker table when they say 'Good Call' or 'Good Fold', based on results based thinking.

A call, that sees you win, when you spike a one outer to come from behind is not a 'good call' because you won. Same for a fold where you fold a monster out of fear of a bigger monster, when there are other big hands you beat they would go all in with, that turns out correct.

Poker is a marathon and not a sprint and to be successful you have to go with the Call or Fold that will give you repeatable wins based on the odds, and not be chasing the 'outlier' wins that defy the odds, but look great when they pay off.

But yes, it is fun to watch those outlier wins :}
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The bad thing about that hand when trying to evaluate it is we have 0 idea the pre-flop action or the flop action. They just show a video that goes straight to the turn. It doesn't look like a good fold on the surface but so much information is missing. Also the context of how the game had been going, the players tendencies and views of each other, blind amounts/relative stack sizes, etc etc. Maybe AA guy is a total nit and is never doing that without the nuts. You can make massive hero folds when you have certain reads.

Edit TLDR: I'm not saying it's a good fold, I'm just saying half the hand is missing and all the context around it is missing as well. That's the thing I dislike most about these types of videos. If player A and player B have 200 hours at the table with each other and they get in a heads up hand shit might start getting a little wonky and abnormal.

Double edit because I love talking about poker. In this situation I think the guy probably became exploitable. First let me go over what that means.

Let's say a player hates folding. Easy solution don't bet unless you have a good hand. Exploitable
Let's say a player folds to any aggression. Easy solution just be aggressive in pots with them. Exploitable
Let's say a person never ever bets unless they have a strong hand. Easy solution you always know when they have a strong hand. Exploitable

Ok, now what I mean by him becoming exploitable is that his opponent has determined he is never ever bluffing in that spot. He's always going to have the best hand. The fold being such a massive no-no is a huge indication this player had a read they were confident of. Exploiting your opponents isn't just about maximizing gains, but also about minimizing losses. If there was any inkling in that players mind the opponent didn't have the best hand they would have snap called. Therefore, the player with AA had become exploitable.

For poker pros, for real critical thinkers, becoming exploitable is a massive and valid concern especially when you see some of the same opponents on a regular basis.
 
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Natural Order said:
I lost a hand at a casino holding quad kings to a straight flush. Won a bad beat pot of $1800.

Best and worst hand I've ever played.
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I watched a woman tip a waitress for a drink go all in for her last $8, get called by 1 person, they hit the bad beat for $180K but doesn't qualify because they only had $19 in the pot and they needed a minimum of $20

This happened roughly 15 years ago. Never forgot about it and I still to this day feel terrible for that lady.
 
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