One FC destroyed all the UFC talent they signed

This is the Strikeforce effect. People are so thirsty to be rebels and have something that isn't mainstream they spend all day talking about how the real talent is at XXX org.
 
Alvarez was winning but got dq and Demetrious fought a much bigger guy who is 13 cm taller, It looked like LW vs MW. Literally one of the dumbest threads here. Also nobody said that outside of the UFC everyone are cans but the overall level and the majority of the top fighters are in the UFC
 
That's weird. I seem to remember Pride, WEC, and Strikeforce guys coming in and killing the ufc champs and ruling for years. You must be from an alternate reality.
Name one example from someone coming from somewhere else besides Pride and becoming champ right away.
And Wec doesn’t count because they were basically the only place that had LW and lower at the time so there was no UFC LW champ for the Wec lightweight champ to beat.
 
This is the Strikeforce effect. People are so thirsty to be rebels and have something that isn't mainstream they spend all day talking about how the real talent is at XXX org.
Strikeforce was a good org as was Pride. It’s why Zuffa had to get rid of them.

The current “Other orgs” don’t have the same talent Strikeforce and Pride did, because the Ufc really is the number one spot now.

They got their wallets out to make sure of that.

Today’s mma landscape is drastically different than the one During the Pride and Strikeforce eras.
 
Only stooges believe there aren't fighters good enough to give UFC elites a tough time in other promotions. Former UFC fighters are being paid decent generally by that promotions pay out standards. So they're usually not giving them softballs at that rate. They want them main eventing in intriguing match ups. Prochazka is a good example of the talent that lies outside the UFC. Up until fairly recently he was just a rizin guy. Who many here probably refer to as a B league. Enters the UFC and blows two top 10 stalwarts and former title challengers out of the water with second round stoppages. And thats not even factoring that UFC is now in a stage where they actually cut top guys if they cost too much and they dont think they're going to get return from them anymore, or if they just don't like your style.. So making sure they have ALL the top talent isn't even their priority anymore. Which will naturally bolster other promotions rosters, make their divisions deeper, and more finely tune their top rank guys who go through those divisions.
 
Eddie Alvarez, Mighty Mouse, and Sage Northcutt.

All brutally finished in a violent manner.

Sage hospitalized and career over.

Eddie done.

Mighty Mouse KO’d for the first time In his career.

Does this prove that there is a whole world of MMA out there outside of the UFC?

That there are tough, UFC level fighters everywhere.

Chandler may be UFC LW champion tonight.

Maybe eyes will open.
meh. this has always been the case.
UFC got the best marketing in US, and biggest exposure.
this (by far) does not prove they are the best fighters.

The ONLY way to find out, is if all promotions made champions versus champions in each weight class.

But guess who would NEVER do that... (understandably so though. they have nothing to prove and everything to lose
 
Demetrious defeated 3 fighters in a row and became the ONE Grand Prix Champion. His only loss was against a guy twice his size.
 
Shinya Aoki would rear naked neck crank choke many UFC LW's.
 
No, once someone steps in a cage that has the UFC logo and proper 12 on the canvas it boosts their skills up by a large margin. CM Punk bless.
 
most past their prime or on the downward slide
 
Anyone who lose outside ufc = “past their prime”

Anyone who come to the ufc from Bellator and wins belt means they gain ufc superpowers and improved 5000% from there time in Bellator
 
  • They were past their prime, or approaching it, when they were sent there. Eddie has been fighting since 2003 lol.
  • The weight classes and cutting are different, making them fight a weight class above their usual weight class
  • Eddie arguably should be 3-1 in the org, had to withdraw from their Grand Prix he'd advanced through due to an injury, and due to bad luck/rules is 1-2-1 despite fighting at 170
  • MM is 3-1 in the org, including winning their 135lb Grand Prix, and arguably should've been 4-0 had the rules been properly applied (MM gets KO'd by illegal shots but it stands as a loss, but Eddie gets DQ'd for "illegal" shots on the same card which turns into a NC). Again, despite fighting at 135 instead of 125.
  • The lack of drug testing has VERY CLEARLY benefited the ONE fighters they're facing, meanwhile they look exactly the same as they did in the UFC with USADA.
  • Sage is Sage, and nobody gave a shit about him in the first place. In either the UFC or ONE. He was never a big fighter, and equating him with MM and Eddie, who are GOATs, is ridiculous.

You're a retard.
 
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Mighty Mouse and Alvarez are both past their prime - not hating, just being objective. Sage was massively overhyped and underperformed in the UFC before coming over to ONE.
Nobody was saying Mo]IG hot Mouse was over the Hill when he left for ONE.
they dont weigh the fighters
The fighters in ONe get weighed more times on fight week than UFC fighters under any athletic commission.
I would blame steroids. Fighters at ONE are freaking super humans. You can't just jump on testosterone and think that you will be god level athlete. You got to know all the in and outs of the steroids game.

Alvarez was sure after this prime after Conor loss he looked awful.
Lol at thinking UFC fighters aren’t juiced to the gills.
To be fair MM was released right after he arguably defended for a record time against Cejudo (close as hell fight)

Tough to identify any deterioration honestly
Thank you. He also left the UFC and immediately won three straight fights in a year to take a Grand Prix championship.
DJ lost 1/4 fights to a champion. Hardly destroyed him.
TS also conveniently left out John Lineker in his rant
 
Dana sent chuck to go fight Wand, But got WRECKED by Page before he maid it up the ladder.

Chuck also beat Wand when Wand came to the UFC only 1 fight removed from being Pride champ...

Also, Rampage arguably ended up being the best LHW across both organizations. Rampage beat Chuck in both orgs, Wand in the UFC, and while he lost to Shogun in Pride and never rematched he likely would've beat him in the UFC had Shogun managed to turn away Jones (or Shogun got his title shot while Rampage still reigned).

Saying Chuck lost to Rampage during this time is retarded. And Chuck wasn't even the best UFC LHW lol. He went over after Randy spanked him, not while Chuck still reigned.

Fedor ruled HW in his prime.

I don't see this similar at all. Fedor never faced any of his counterparts. I agree he was the best HW during his prime, but equating it to what happened with Chuck is fairly ridiculous. Fedor only ever faced people after they'd lost.
 
What proves that there is a whole world of MMA outside of the UFC is...



That there is a whole world of MMA outside of the UFC
 
MM is 3-1 in the org, including winning their 135lb Grand Prix, and arguably should've been 4-0 had the rules been properly applied
Knees to a downed opponent are legal in many promotions all over the r]world. Only really banned in the U.S. UFC is not the sport.
The lack of drug testing has VERY CLEARLY benefited the ONE fighters they're facing, meanwhile they look exactly the same as they did in the UFC with USADA.
Lol at thinking USADA is keeping the fighters clean
 
Nobody was saying Mo]IG hot Mouse was over the Hill when he left for ONE.

The fighters in ONe get weighed more times on fight week than UFC fighters under any athletic commission.

Lol at thinking UFC fighters aren’t juiced to the gills.

Thank you. He also left the UFC and immediately won three straight fights in a year to take a Grand Prix championship.

TS also conveniently left out John Lineker in his rant
this guy thinks one fc fighers are better than ufc fighters....
 
Knees to a downed opponent are legal in many promotions all over the r]world. Only really banned in the U.S. UFC is not the sport.

Eh, turns out I was wrong about this. I just remember thinking how weird it was the knee was allowed, but Eddie's punches were not. My bad.

Doesn't change the fact that MM is still 3-1 in the division, won their GP, and is fighting a weight class above his usual. He hasn't done anywhere near as bad as TS is pretending.

Lol at thinking USADA is keeping the fighters clean

I didn't say that.

However, you do have to be crazy to equate USADA and ONE's drug testing policy. Pretty clearly the ONE fighters are juiced to the gills compared to the UFC fighters.
 
These other orgs are full of guys that are just as dangerous as UFC fighters they just arent as well rounded.

So the risk of losing is almost just the same as fighting a top tier guy your just fighting guys that wouldnt be able to make it to the top against more well rounded fighters.

in some cases a lot of these guys are much better strikers or grapplers than top fighters are. So depending on the matchup these guys are even more dangerous
 
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