News ONE Championship raises another 150 million

[TorontoTO]

These investors have no control over the business. Glory has been doing it for over a decade. I worked for several shows through multiple rounds of investors. One of the investors used to bring his entire extended family to events like 30+ men, women and children to show off his investment. I used to feel really badly because I'd see his smile get smaller and smaller event after event when he started to realize it was a bad investment. But the guy also owned a wellknown professional sports franchise in the US and a Casino. What he lost would take me around 10 years to earn, lol.

If you are a millionaire/billionaire/whatever, putting money into martial arts is a lost cause. You should only do it if you are a fan off it and just want to have an expensive hobby.

I have seen Bezos getting juiced on HGH, maybe someone can slip him some copies off the Pride shows so he becomes a fan off MMA

 

[skylolow]

How much % do you think Chatri takes on that?

Chatri is funny, i mean.who leaves Wall street with great income for this shady business?

It be interesting to know.

To me he earns it, if he can keep raising capital he is doing his job. Seems to be doing a hell of job of that.

 

[Romulas]

If you are a millionaire/billionaire/whatever, putting money into martial arts is a lost cause. You should only do it if you are a fan off it and just want to have an expensive hobby.

I have seen Bezos getting juiced on HGH, maybe someone can slip him some copies off the Pride shows so he becomes a fan off MMA

That's basically how Glory Kickboxing started. The French/Russian oil trader/hedge fund manager owner did some kickboxing while in England, was a big fan of Tyrone Spong, and then built an organization around him. I hung with him at a few of the early events. He's awesome.

 

[Deleted member 363827]

If you are a millionaire/billionaire/whatever, putting money into martial arts is a lost cause. You should only do it if you are a fan off it and just want to have an expensive hobby.

I have seen Bezos getting juiced on HGH, maybe someone can slip him some copies off the Pride shows so he becomes a fan off MMA

Didn't the same thing happen to Blackzillion founder? Basically millionaires throwing money down the drain because they want to be a cool kid hanging out with cool fighters. Kinda suck for Blackzillion founder though, because he was not rich enough and went bankrupt.

 

[DaRivv20]

ONE FC has to be one of the most interesting organisations out there not just for their MMA, Kickboxing and Muay Thai. But also for the business side of their operation.

 

[StonedLemur]

How investors keep burning $$$$$ in one is beyond comprehension….
One is in first place… and PFL second in burning investors $$$

If you were around in the beginning of the UFC that's all they did was burn money.

You have to burn money to earn money.

 

[MMALOPEZ]

If you were around in the beginning of the UFC that's all they did was burn money.

You have to burn money to earn money.

Lol!!!! Not in the excess of 300 mil… this is a money laundering operation


This people will never make a penny … PFL is the same boat

 

[StonedLemur]

Lol!!!! Not in the excess of 300 mil… this is a money laundering operation


This people will never make a penny … PFL is the same boat

A money laundering operation that nobody can put any evidence together on.

Sounds like a fishing expedition to me sir.

 

[leto1776]

Lol!!!! Not in the excess of 300 mil… this is a money laundering operation


This people will never make a penny … PFL is the same boat

1. Inflation
2. Bigger scale
3. You don’t know what money laundering is

 

[Mickf]

Apart from japan. All these areas in asia that one is targeting have never bought a ppv whether that is for boxing, ufc or one. Also they don't pay high prices for tickets to view live. Sure one had to give the tickets away to fill arenas before covid.

 

[Mickf]

You can probably give away more free burgers on the corner of a busy street in bangkok than you can in london. That doesn't make what u are doing a solid business. Its a charity.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Money laundring i guess

Why cant the investors read articles about One and their loss before taking a decision?

Pretty sure those "investors" know what they are doing.

 

[MMALOPEZ]

A money laundering operation that nobody can put any evidence together on.

Sounds like a fishing expedition to me sir.

With that burned money in the hole they will never make the profit Ufc has … period

 

[MMALOPEZ]

1. Inflation
2. Bigger scale
3. You don’t know what money laundering is

Well we cannot confirm it… or they might be in prison…. But just like all this Russian shows… it doesn’t seem legit… I hope all the best to them… great platform to fighters

 

[StonedLemur]

With that burned money in the hole they will never make the profit Ufc has … period

Way to move the goal post...period.

 

[skylolow]

If you were around in the beginning of the UFC that's all they did was burn money.

You have to burn money to earn money.

Very, true but in the tune of what ONE FC is doing its a bad sign.

It's ten years and the ground work has been laid for years for ONE. Yet, revenue increase and loses continue to grow massively year after year with no end in sight. That is the scary and weird part about ONE.

Easiest thing to do is say its some money laundering scheme. Truth is its probably some form of a tax evasion/loop hole for some of these investors and mixed in real investors looking to making money. I have no ideal what the tax codes are like in that part of the world. But on the surface as pure investment stand point it seems your chance to make money in ONE is hail marry at best. They are burning a lot of money and I'm guess most of that is paying back early investors. It surely isn't in the product we see from them. In other words ONE is raising new capital to pay back old capital they raised. I know if any investment group gives/invests in a busines for say 30 million dollars they are expecting terms/path on getting that initial money back sooner than later and for that investment have longer lasting terms to make money in the deal. That is how all investment capital works at the core in its simplest form. If it doesn't your not in business as an investor very long because your broke.

In a nutshell based on the information provided by some sites on ONE's Financials they have to be extremely heavily leveraged and the business does not continue with out new investment capital in the tune of tens of millions of dollars yearly or taking massive investment on that may last a few years (ie: this 150 million). How long can you keep this up, what happens if they default on some loans or investment terms...........I have no idea in that part of the world. All I know is ONE is very far from being a self sustained business.

 

[MMALOPEZ]

Way to move the goal post...period.

Lol

 

[svmVR2097]

How investors keep burning $$$$$ in one is beyond comprehension….
One is in first place… and PFL second in burning investors $$$

Literally the fastest growing sports entity

 

[StonedLemur]

Very, true but in the tune of what ONE FC is doing its a bad sign.

It's ten years and the ground work has been laid for years for ONE. Yet, revenue increase and loses continue to grow massively year after year with no end in sight. That is the scary and weird part about ONE.

Easiest thing to do is say its some money laundering scheme. Truth is its probably some form of a tax evasion/loop hole for some of these investors and mixed in real investors looking to making money. I have no ideal what the tax codes are like in that part of the world. But on the surface as pure investment stand point it seems your chance to make money in ONE is hail marry at best. They are burning a lot of money and I'm guess most of that is paying back early investors. It surely isn't in the product we see from them. In other words ONE is raising new capital to pay back old capital they raised. I know if any investment group gives/invests in a busines for say 30 million dollars they are expecting terms/path on getting that initial money back sooner than later and for that investment have longer lasting terms to make money in the deal. That is how all investment capital works at the core in its simplest form. If it doesn't your not in business as an investor very long because your broke.

In a nutshell based on the information provided by some sites on ONE's Financials they have to be extremely heavily leveraged and the business does not continue with out new investment capital in the tune of tens of millions of dollars yearly or taking massive investment on that may last a few years (ie: this 150 million). How long can you keep this up, what happens if they default on some loans or investment terms...........I have no idea in that part of the world. All I know is ONE is very far from being a self sustained business.

Like I said though...not one shred of evidence sir.

 

[skylolow]

Like I said though...not one shred of evidence sir.

Yeah, cause when you do something shady its broad casted every where. I'm pretty sure when Group One Holdings Pte. Ltd turns in there paperwork to Singapore’s Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority of Singapore they make sure to out line any shady things.

Like I said it probably isn't money laundering across the board. More of mixture of investors looking for hail marry by investing and showing loses as part of tax thing and other investors looking to make money. Now do any of these investment groups have some shady people/money involved in them who knows. Many investment groups are made up of many individuals or other companies some times 100's of people/companies involved.

On the surface its smoke and mirrors. According to their fillings there in no reason to invest in ONE FC from an investment standpoint. Hardly anything you can point to that say you even have a shot of making your investment back. It seems quite apparent on the surface they just keep kicking the ball down the way. Eventually that will hit a wall. One round of fail investments it all comes crashing down quickly.


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