As stated earlier, for you to vouch for someone you never met as a lifetime natty exposes how ignorant and emotionally invested you are. I wouldn't vouch for my closest friends as being natty...unless you are with someone 24/7 even when they go to the bathroom you absolutely could not verify if they use PEDs or not.
Like, how can you even state for a fact that these guys are even vegan lol. Are you unaware of how much smoke and mirrors the fitness community is full of? I'm sure you wouldn't believe hershel Walker claiming he only eats salads and soups?
Theres clearly a benefit to lying about something like this, when there's a large community of fanatics waiting to have a new great vegan hope
You blaming others for shifting the goalposts would be credible if you didn't feel the need to play along and post crazy shit in response, which actually did shift the goalposts