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Economy One Cause of Everything: The Case for Ending Subsidies for Animal Agriculture

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  1. Ultra O’Dia

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    i also doubt he is natty, as i do also doubt that any of his carnivorous competitors are.

    i take for granted, as someone who has done steroids in the past, that virtually everyone who has hit any level is.

    and ya, Pat really isnt THAT strong in a worldwide sense. i mean, he is very, very strong and %wise, stronger than nearly anyone, but the cream of the crop is clearly stronger than him.

    its numbers, though. nearly everyone is eating meat.
     
  2. Reactionary Corporatist

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    You can't make changes... Without making changes. Your taste buds adapt. I was a huge red meat guy. I loved BBQ. I loved a good steak.

    Your taste buds change and your preferences change. Every single meal I eat is so god damn healthy for me, so loaded full of fiber and micro nutrients now. There's probably 20/30 grams of fiber in everything I eat. My stools are so clean I swear to God I could get away with not even wiping if I wanted to :eek:
     
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    I tried it and it straight up isn't for me.

    The majority of the meat I eat now save for the fish (shit like shrimp cause, well, I live in Utah now so any ocean seafood I have to buy) either was caught/hunted by myself or the guy I live with or we got it from a friend that caught/hunted it themselves.
     
  4. wufabufa

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    Yeah I said nothing about particle density. I'm talking about size/number in LDL-C vs LDL-P.
     
  5. Reactionary Corporatist

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    HDL has a smaller particle size and LDL a larger particle size, correct?

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180825081724.htm
    All forms of cholesterol and blood lipids should be lowered as much as possible while still staying in healthy ranges.
     
  6. wufabufa

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    You still didn't answer my question
     
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    I wasn't aware you had asked a question. What is it?
     
  8. wufabufa

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    You've just been making huge blanket statements about HDL vs LDL without addressing the impact of LDL-C vs LDL-P ratio.
     
  9. Reactionary Corporatist

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    Because it doesn't matter. These are the types of figures that science denying keto "doctors" like Eric Berg like to focus on. Look at the 2017 meta analysis referenced in the op. All that matters is the absolute magnitude of vascular exposure to LDL C. There is a direct liner relationship between heart disease and vascular exposure to LDL C.

    If you have a "good ratio" of C to P but you still have high LDL C, that ratio means absolutely nothing. Lower fat/lipids in your blood to reduce your risk of heart disease, period. Total cholesterol scores below 150 have almost no chance of developing heart disease, period.
     
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  10. Prutfis

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    I like my meat, so fuck limp wristed vegans.

    Feed your kids a vegan diet and they don´t develop properly.
     
  11. Reactionary Corporatist

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    100% guarantee I would fuck you up.

    Oh... also...
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
    Hmmm... let's see.... opinion of the largest body of nutrition experts in the world....opinion of random sherdog nobody spouting ignorant fact-free retardation....hmmmm....who should I side with.....hmmm...this one is really tough
     
  12. Farmer Br0wn

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    Detasseling season is upon us, so at the moment I don't have the time to read your full paper and give it a deeper consideration. I'll give it a read the next time I'm in front of my PC and/or tablet.

    One thing that you posted that did stand out to me, and may be a good point of entry for discussion:

    The United States is no longer party to the Paris Climate Accord. Other than one's personal desire, there is no need to measure targeted emissions in accordance with the Paris Climate Accord.

    Knowing this fact, what do you believe is the value of your statement?
     
  13. Reactionary Corporatist

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    If you think the US is going to continue down Trump's anti-climate agenda long term, you're just wrong. And the cost estimates associated with meeting the Paris climate agreement was just used as a placeholder for "it will cut the costs of dramatically overhauling the economy by almost 50%".
     
  14. newerest

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    yeah that guy doesn't actually own a single world record
     
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    except for the fact... that... he does?

    https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...a_record_perhaps_at_vegetarian_food_fest.html
    The 34-year-old, who already holds world records for log lifts and overhead beer keg lifts, carried a yoke loaded with just over 550 kilograms 10 metres across a stage at the Harbourfront Centre on Sunday afternoon — at Toronto’s Vegetarian Food Festival.

    YIKES
     
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    Maybe you're unaware but just because some strongman organization in someone's backyard lists it as a world record does not make it so

    This is actually interesting to me how vegans latch onto to this guy. It's like when white people latch onto the "great white hope" in heavyweight boxing

    Yikes indeed
     
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    Lol literally repeating a sentence you heard on Joe Rogan word for word. Hilarious. Yes lived crowds with thousands in attendance is someone's back yard.
     
  18. newerest

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    So...do you concede his yoke walk is not the heaviest in the world?

    Damn, if you got this as wrong as you did, I really wonder how poorly researched everything else is.
     
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  19. Prutfis

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    I can easily post many studies where doctors have looked at vegan diets for developing kids and the health risks involved.
    But arguing with vegans is like arguing with religious zealots. Completely pointless.
    I do plenty of other things to reduce my carbon foot print. It's probably smaller than yours.
     
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  20. Reactionary Corporatist

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    Post the study then. Do it.

    Oh, and dude, it's mathematically impossible for your footprint to be smaller than mine if you regularly consume animals products.
     

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