On an Average Day, Three Police Officers are Arrested

How do their arrest and conviction numbers compare with the general public?
 
sabretruth said:
How do their arrest and conviction numbers compare with the general public?
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Good question, and one that occurred to me as well.

Before I started the thread I tried to find in the article how many police officers don't get arrested in a given year but couldn't find it. When you think about it, there isn't really an official record for an officer not getting arrested.
 
How does this arrest rate compare to that of the general population?
 
elmo_1968 said:
Good question, and one that occurred to me as well.

Before I started the thread I tried to find in the article how many police officers don't get arrested in a given year but couldn't find it. When you think about it, there isn't really an official record for an officer not getting arrested.
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1.1 million - 1095 =

That wouldn't really give an answer to the question though.

As a % it's pretty small. Around .1% convicted per year.
 
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Cid said:
1.1 million - 1095 =

That wouldn't really give an answer to the question though.

As a % it's pretty small. Around .1% convicted per year.
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"Stinson’s data found 1.7 arrests of police per 100,000 population over the seven years of the study, where the general arrest rate in 2012 alone was 3,888 arrests per 100,000 population."

So police are arrested at rates substantially below that of the general populace. That is good, but of course the question is what is good enough? If a daycare provider asserts its caretakers are convicted of child molesting at rates below the general populace, you'd probably want to know how far below average.

I think this is saying just under 4% of the population was arrested in 2012. If I think of the 100 people closest to me, I doubt 4 of them have been arrested in a given year, so I think my circle beats the average. Of course arrests aren't spread evenly across all demographics, in some neighborhoods it might be far higher than 4% arrested in a given year.
 
elmo_1968 said:
"Stinson’s data found 1.7 arrests of police per 100,000 population over the seven years of the study, where the general arrest rate in 2012 alone was 3,888 arrests per 100,000 population."

So police are arrested at rates substantially below that of the general populace. That is good, but of course the question is what is good enough? If a daycare provider asserts its caretakers are convicted of child molesting at rates below the general populace, you'd probably want to know how far below average.

I think this is saying just under 4% of the population was arrested in 2012. If I think of the 100 people closest to me, I doubt 4 of them have been arrested in a given year, so I think my circle beats the average. Of course arrests aren't spread evenly across all demographics, in some neighborhoods it might be far higher than 4% arrested in a given year.
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Substantially doesn't even quite describe it really. The discrepancy in that first paragraph is really that large it kinda makes one question how accurate it is.
 
Cid said:
Substantially doesn't even quite describe it really. The discrepancy in that first paragraph is really that large it kinda makes one question how accurate it is.
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Well substantial is the opposite of trivial. And what makes you question the accuracy?
 
i think a more relevant statistic would be what percentage of the entire current+past police force has been convicted of a crime or accused of a crime.
 
I don't hate the police but as w/ all authority I think we need to hold them accountable. The statistics aren't damning, the police are ahead of the population as a whole. But we put a lot of trust in them, and so we can have a higher standard. At the same time, they are human and we can't condemn the whole profession the first time one of them gets a DUI.
 
I don't understand what it matters what the arrest rate is compared to the general population.

Once you're a cop you shouldn't be getting arrested for committing crimes
 
elmo_1968 said:
I don't hate the police but as w/ all authority I think we need to hold them accountable. The statistics aren't damning, the police are ahead of the population as a whole. But we put a lot of trust in them, and so we can have a higher standard. At the same time, they are human and we can't condemn the whole profession the first time one of them gets a DUI.
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It should be easier for citizens who have been mistreated by cops to have the situation rectified. As it is now cops can jerk people around and get away with it.
 
Beyond the stats people just brought out for that silly number (meant nothing without the context people followed up with), your argument to not trust an officer because some get arrested is generalizing. So a population gets arrested below the general ppopulations average and we shouldn't trust them. This reasoning is wrong on multiple levels.
 
KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
I don't understand what it matters what the arrest rate is compared to the general population.

Once you're a cop you shouldn't be getting arrested for committing crimes
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He posted a stat to imply cops aren't trustworthy but the stat actually showed the opposite. No one was arguing cops shouldn't break the law or not. They were trying to show this bad attempt at generalization doesn't hold up
 
Lead Salad said:
He posted a stat to imply cops aren't trustworthy but the stat actually showed the opposite. No one was arguing cops shouldn't break the law or not. They were trying to show this bad attempt at generalization doesn't hold up
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Well I guess I missed that post saying that.
 
Lead Salad said:
Beyond the stats people just brought out for that silly number (meant nothing without the context people followed up with), your argument to not trust an officer because some get arrested is generalizing. So a population gets arrested below the general ppopulations average and we shouldn't trust them. This reasoning is wrong on multiple levels.
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What should persuade us whether to trust police or not?
 
elmo_1968 said:
"Stinson’s data found 1.7 arrests of police per 100,000 population over the seven years of the study, where the general arrest rate in 2012 alone was 3,888 arrests per 100,000 population."

So police are arrested at rates substantially below that of the general populace. That is good, but of course the question is what is good enough? If a daycare provider asserts its caretakers are convicted of child molesting at rates below the general populace, you'd probably want to know how far below average.

I think this is saying just under 4% of the population was arrested in 2012. If I think of the 100 people closest to me, I doubt 4 of them have been arrested in a given year, so I think my circle beats the average. Of course arrests aren't spread evenly across all demographics, in some neighborhoods it might be far higher than 4% arrested in a given year.
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I don't think it would be 4 for every 100 people. Repeat offenders can rack up a pretty good number of arrests.
 
Generally speaking you should only comply with what you are legally required to.

Regardless of stats cops are allowed to lie, especially so in an interrogation.

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If cops were arrested at a much higher rate than the general pop, does that mean you arent going to comply if ordered out of a vehicle? probably wont go well
 
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