1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »
Violence/Genocide: Do not condone violence or genocide on a person or group of people. You are free to attack a person or groups ideas but you are crossing the line when calling for violence. This will be heavily enforced in threads with breaking news involving victims.

Olympic Boxing: Women still wearing headgear is sexist?

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Queen B, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. Queen B He / Him / His

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2014
    Messages:
    18,536
    Likes Received:
    2,856
    This year, all men will compete with no headgear.

    However for women, unless they choose to change the rules, must wear headgear. People are saying its sexist.

    What do you think? Are they saying women are just not good and cant protect themselves?


    I think its bullshit and they should be free. I dont understand this reasoning at all. Its like they are saying men is "real fighting" and women is "child fighting".

    http://fightland.vice.com/blog/male...longer-wear-ridiculous-and-dangerous-headgear

     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2016
  2. Renard Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2016
    Messages:
    8,365
    Likes Received:
    3,006
    Article says it's the first time in 30 years, so the men's division is basically a test. They expect it's coming for women next year. Non-story.
     
  3. Lord_Impaler Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2006
    Messages:
    3,457
    Likes Received:
    713
    Honestly I prefer to seriously spar without head gear because if you get popped without it your clearly hurt and you stop.

    With head gear you can walk through shots and end up with a two day headache, which I would think is dangerous or at the very least more unhealthy.
     
  4. bad seed Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    19,779
    Likes Received:
    2
    I get hit a lot more when wearing headgear too. It does mitigate medium intensity shots into soft ones, but hard shots do just as much damage. And partners subconsciously throw harder too.
     
  5. Rex Kwon Do ál-ḥámdúlílláh

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2005
    Messages:
    14,109
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Tíshník
    Isn't the real point of headgear to prevent cuts?

    Anyway, women's boxing should be eliminated altogether. Lol who watches that crap?
     
  6. j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2013
    Messages:
    16,834
    Likes Received:
    3,047
    Location:
    Solider Mentality
    Not to mention the myriad of issues as well
    -added weight of the gear + constant blows to your head = minor form of whiplash
    -obscured vision
    -harder to breathe

    It really only helps with cuts and bruises.
    I ditched mine about a year ago. I did wear it once 2 months ago, as I had a company meeting and didn't want to show up looking like a hooligan. And man, it was like there was a heater on top of my head after a few rounds of sparring. Its not like it was a tight super protection type either, its an open faced one with a velcro chin strap.
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2016
  7. maddog7 Green Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2015
    Messages:
    1,390
    Likes Received:
    0
    That's right, it does compromise your vision.

    It's still an interesting rationale. Men 's headgear was abolished because it is supposedly more dangerous in the long run.

    Women and children still have to wear it because...
     
  8. ehtheist #FreeBanchan Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,282
    Likes Received:
    0
    Meh, women are more likely to get concussions than men when performing the same activity. Let's see how well the no headgear thing works for the disposable humans first, and we'll go from here.
     
  9. riddleofsteel Red Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,320
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Tower of the Elephant
    Doesn't matter if the seats are empty, the IOC has decided they want to have as many females athletes competing as there are males competing. That is a large factor in women's boxing now being in the Olympics, boxing was the only sport without female competitors. That pressure is on all sports, it has resulted in events lowering their qualifying marks in order to get more women athletes into the games and punishing sports that hesitate to go along - the IOC rape and slaughter of FILA wrestling.
     
  10. ShinkanPo Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    35,283
    Likes Received:
    4,246
    Location:
    Strange realm
    Jesus H. Christ does every damn thing need to be about sexism?

    So protecting women is sexist.


    Is sexism the new racism?
     
  11. ShinkanPo Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    35,283
    Likes Received:
    4,246
    Location:
    Strange realm

    No wrestking in Rio olympics? Damn..
     
  12. riddleofsteel Red Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,320
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Tower of the Elephant
    "He found that in the 7,352 rounds that took place with boxers wearing headgear, the rate of concussion was 0.38 per cent, compared with 0.17 per cent in the 7,545 rounds without headgear."

    What fights were used in this study?? Were the non headgear bouts professional fights? That is a really low number of concussions.

    I would think headgear would be worn for cut prevention, especially in a tournament format.
     
  13. riddleofsteel Red Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,320
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Tower of the Elephant
    Wrestling is back in the games. The number of participants are lower now though. 6 weight divisions in each men's freestyle & greco-roman and 6 in women's freestyle. in 2012 each men's style had 7 weight classes, 2000 it was 8, 1996 it was 10.

    Years ago FILA could have built up women's wrestling and maneuvered to keep more men competitors. But they stalled and then only added a few female weights and by then the IOC was putting a limit on the number of athletes allowed at the games, limiting each sport to a specific number of athletes (example, 285 slots for men and women) and wrestling was forced to cut back the number of men competing to accommodate the women wrestlers.
    Then FILA doubled down on their arrogance and briefly got kicked out of the games.
     
  14. bad seed Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    19,779
    Likes Received:
    2
    Katie Taylor is the GOAT Irish fighter, and the face of boxing in Ireland.

    Conor WhoGregor?
     
  15. deadshot138 Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2014
    Messages:
    12,205
    Likes Received:
    2,642
    I think they should get to compete without headgear. The power of the shots should be relative and if they're allowing men to compete without it, women should be able to too.

    I prefer training without headgear. If you sweat enough, it can slide around and inhibit your vision, especially if any grappling is involved. The only time I've ever been concussed, I was wearing headgear and didn't see a headkick coming due to poor peripheral vision.
     
  16. bad seed Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2012
    Messages:
    19,779
    Likes Received:
    2
    they eliminated it so they can add GOLF and kitesurfing. It took international protest to bring wrestling back, but the fact that they saw it as disposable speaks volumes about the IOC.
     
  17. ShinkanPo Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    35,283
    Likes Received:
    4,246
    Location:
    Strange realm
    Good to know Wrestlings are back I thought it was completely removed.
     
  18. machidafan99 Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2014
    Messages:
    15,452
    Likes Received:
    871
    The sexes are very different --is that a sexist statement
     
  19. frandie2b ------(SALD BELT)------

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2009
    Messages:
    7,634
    Likes Received:
    85
    Location:
    Corsica
    Why would it be sexist only towards women ?
     
  20. Dolomite Red Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2005
    Messages:
    9,139
    Likes Received:
    0
    Olympic Boxing:

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.