Oliveira is going to get chinned because of his non-existent head-movement.

[electricfuneral]

Usually I pick the guy with the most ways to win the fight. Do Bronx has more ways to win. He can win a decision, a TKO, a sub where I can only see Chandler win by KO. That being said I think Chandler is more durable and will get that KO. Both of these guys have bad defenses. It's all about who can dictate the fight. Chandler will try and rush Oliveria and blast him. Oliveria will try and have some spacing and force chandler to get impatient/get subbed.

 

[MigitAs]

Chuck is underrated going into this one, if Chandler doesn’t get an early ko, he’s done.

 

[Shaitan]

TL/DR

"Elite BJJ specialists don't tap to THE Paul Felders or Jim Millers,"

Rodolfo still tapped to a purple.
Jim Miller was a black belt (so was Charles) when they fought.

So what ever you feel you need to post to back track. I aint reading it.

Being a black belt means nothing. If you have not proven yourself on the international stage against other elite opponents, you're not elite, period. Jim Miller was never an elite grappler, Oliveira isn't one either. They have never outgrappled anyone even worth mentioning in the submission grappling community either inside or outside the octagon. Oliveira's BJJ is dramatically overrated and Chandler is going to expose him.

 

[KOPPE]

more like non-existent heart

 

[Lawrence]

Elite BJJ specialists don't tap to THE Paul Felders or Jim Millers, lol. Oliveira's BJJ is extremely overrated.

Naah Bro... I know you just like to take attention getting stands, but you clearly don't watch many fights or are just a liar.

Olivera has been pounded out and submitted (in the distant past) because he was VERY aggressive in his ground game and took big risks for big rewards.

The risk factor has decreased over the last few years due to his continued improvement and his improved endurance at 155.

There is nothing overrated about his ground game, as evidenced by the respect he receives from the other elite BJJ practitioners in MMA...

Just watch him and enjoy the show Bro.

 

[Shaitan]

There is nothing overrated about his ground game

There absolutely is. Casuals tout him as one of the best BJJ practitioners in the sport based solely on the number of subs, yet these casuals don't bother looking at who he actually subbed. None of the fighters he subbed or outgrappled in general were elite BJJ practitioners. Oliveira is only getting lip-service, because the BJJ community is desperate for having a BJJ representative in MMA. If Oliveira went to an actual high level submission grappling competition, he'd get tapped in a jiffy and laughed out of the event.

 

[Lawrence]

There absolutely is. Casuals tout him as one of the best BJJ practitioners in the sport based solely on the number of subs, yet these casuals don't bother looking at who he actually subbed. None of the fighters he subbed or outgrappled in general were elite BJJ practitioners. Oliveira is only getting lip-service, because the BJJ community is desperate for having a BJJ representative in MMA. If Oliveira went to an actual high level submission grappling competition, he'd get tapped in a jiffy and laughed out of the event.

He really appeared levels ahead of Ferg on the ground right?

And no matter what he does in his upcoming bout you will not respect it because his opponent is not world class BJJ right?

I really don't give a darn about how he might perform in Abu Dabi.. He has a great run in the cage right now and his ground game is a huge part of it.

He is not a pure BJJ cage fighter like Yahya or Maia... I'll grant you that, but the dude is elite...

Anyhow.. Like I said in the last post... Watch him and enjoy. I know I will.

 

[kingmob6]

We get to find out finally whether Charles Oliveira really improved and took a step forward, or still a just a good fighter better suited for fighting guys a level below. His record is just so unimpressive, this is the first good fight he is in.

 

[Bamboozled]

If he controls the range it won't matter

Part of controlling the range is what you're allowing your opponent to attack, head movement and being off the center line is crucial.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

I believe it was after the Hooker fight. He doesn't think Chandler deserves to fight him. He thought Chandler's wins outside of the UFC don't count.

And in the very next sentence he said “let Chandler win another one, then I’ll fight him”.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Chandler's head doesn't move either especially after he's gassed. His style takes too much energy

Chandler striking defense consists in blocking punches with his face.

He does not have cardio issues... he has terrible defense.

 

[Shaitan]

He really appeared levels ahead of Ferg on the ground right?

And no matter what he does in his upcoming bout you will not respect it because his opponent is not world class BJJ right?

I really don't give a darn about how he might perform in Abu Dabi.. He has a great run in the cage right now and his ground game is a huge part of it.

He is not a pure BJJ cage fighter like Yahya or Maia... I'll grant you that, but the dude is elite...

Anyhow.. Like I said in the last post... Watch him and enjoy. I know I will.

If he beats Chandler he will prove he's an elite fighter in my eyes, but it won't prove he's an elite submission grappler regardless of the method, because Chandler is not an elite submission grappler either.

Tony's BJJ is as overrated as Oliveira's is: guy has never outgrappled anyone even remotely elite and was outgrappled by Castillo and non-exhausted Lee. I do not consider Tony an elite grappler.

And I will enjoy his fight against Chandler, this is true. If I didn't anticipate this fight with excitement, I wouldn't be talking about it, lol.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

His head always stays in the center line, whether he's throwing punches or not. Look at how many times he got tagged clean by Kevin lee on the feet because of his lack of headmovement. You can't do that against an explosive powerhouse like chandler.

Oliveira also stands very tall and has a very high guard, which makes him very susceptible to body strikes. As shown in his past fights. And chandler is one of the best at attacking body in 155.

Overall this is a very tough matchup for Charles, If he hasn't fixed his glaring holes in his defense then I don't think he can get out of the first round.

Very possible, he does fight quite upright...

But hes long...and moves pretty good feet wise...

Chandler has to be careful not to run into anything exploding in for body shots...charles likes to counter as you come in ...chandler has the power advantage for sure tho

I actually want to see chandler ground game in this fight...its an interesting wrinkle in the fight what happens when chandler takes him down if he does .. charles is very slick down there... but chandler has a great punishing top game...

 

[Fedor_Silva]

TL/DR

"Elite BJJ specialists don't tap to THE Paul Felders or Jim Millers,"

Rodolfo still tapped to a purple.
.

Rodolfo was extremely gassed out. He would have tapped to anyone.

 

[lsa]

Rodolfo was extremely gassed out. He would have tapped to anyone.

Well the guy I quoted claims BJJ elites never taps.
Gassed or not gassed Rodolfo tapped.

 

[Shaitan]

Well the guy I quoted claims BJJ elites never taps.
Gassed or not gassed Rodolfo tapped.

Rodolfo tapped to exhaustion. Oliveira tapped to Felder drilling a hole in his skull with elbows.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

His head always stays in the center line, whether he's throwing punches or not. Look at how many times he got tagged clean by Kevin lee on the feet because of his lack of headmovement. You can't do that against an explosive powerhouse like chandler.

Oliveira also stands very tall and has a very high guard, which makes him very susceptible to body strikes. As shown in his past fights. And chandler is one of the best at attacking body in 155.

Overall this is a very tough matchup for Charles, If he hasn't fixed his glaring holes in his defense then I don't think he can get out of the first round.

And Chandler rushes in on straight lines with wide winging shots.

 

[Kono dio da!]

Chandler's head doesn't move either especially after he's gassed. His style takes too much energy

Glass chin. Oliveira could find his chin just as easily.

 

[YungSithLxrd]

I think he said that in the context/title picture before he fought Hooker. They are not friends or anything. They will definitaly fight if it makes sense.

And chandler has openly stated he would Dustin I believe, that's a good fight I'd like to see

 

[Fesaine]

And Chandler rushes in on straight lines with wide winging shots.

Charles is not a great counter striker. He's not going make chandler pay for his mistakes on the feet.