1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »
Violence/Genocide: Do not condone violence or genocide on a person or group of people. You are free to attack a person or groups ideas but you are crossing the line when calling for violence. This will be heavily enforced in threads with breaking news involving victims.

Social Oh Dear Mr. Gruden-Raiders coach gone.

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by cooks1, Oct 12, 2021 at 6:44 AM.

?

Gruden out- 10 year old bigoted emails rants do him in. How do you feel?

  1. Fuck him. Keep your bigotry to yourself if you are making millions as a coach and commentator.

    41.1%
  2. 10 Years ago. Does not matter. He should have tried to ride it out.

    13.4%
  3. Well, it's bad. But he should not have to quit over it.

    18.8%
  4. Just another sign that the woke mob is ruining the country,

    27.7%
  5. Personal emails should not be released publicly without consent. They are private conversations.

    25.9%
  6. Fuck you Cooks1. Not the least bit surprised to see this from a sheep like you.

    9.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. ShadowRun error Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Messages:
    16,333
    Likes Received:
    4,633
    That’s what frustrates me and yea obviously talk shit about people is bad especially in your profession. Kind of remand me of the Hulk sex tape situation. Then you got double standards.growing up loving football I always said let people work and play that included Ray rice. If they can perform at their job let them.
     
  2. Papi Chulo Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2020
    Messages:
    4,491
    Likes Received:
    11,548
  3. Spounman Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2017
    Messages:
    4,833
    Likes Received:
    3,522
    Location:
    Nor Cal
    It is a mental disorder, no doubt.

    Meanwhile a child/woman abuser (Tyreek Hill), a guy who called his boss a cracker (Antonio Brown), and a double murderer (Ray Lewis) are still or were making money and thriving in the league long after their offense.
    No bigger hypocrite on this planet than a liberal.

    I was never a fan of Gruden, hate his play calling so I welcome a new coach but it is total hypocrisy what they're doing to him.
     
    The XL, Hman69, SKYNET and 3 others like this.
  4. Crom Cruach Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 30, 2018
    Messages:
    3,349
    Likes Received:
    2,185
    Gruden is an expendable goon and who gives a monkeys about a shitheel like him.

    But this is to take the heat off Dan Snyder. He's an owner and the boys club protect their own. You never know it might end up having a bit of the Streisand effect.

    I'm willing to bet that "Redskins" culture was around in more franchises.
     
  5. Fox by the Sea Lighthouse Keeper Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    24,821
    Likes Received:
    13,671
    Location:
    Fortress Europe
    didnt know who this guy was
    google him
    found his son
    called DEUCE Gruden
    here he is
    [​IMG]




    I BELIEVE ALL THE ACCUSATIONS
     
  6. Strychnine Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2006
    Messages:
    40,341
    Likes Received:
    18,809
    Location:
    Georgia, USA
    I prefer the opposing viewpoints.




     
  7. Strychnine Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2006
    Messages:
    40,341
    Likes Received:
    18,809
    Location:
    Georgia, USA
    I'm willing to guess that Matt Walsh has never been treated "less than" in his life or alluded to with racial slurs by his boss.
     
  8. Strychnine Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2006
    Messages:
    40,341
    Likes Received:
    18,809
    Location:
    Georgia, USA
    All of the people crying "foul" about what's happening to Jon Gruden just need to buy a football team and place him in charge.

    This isn't rocket surgery.
     
  9. DrDune Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2010
    Messages:
    3,624
    Likes Received:
    1,485
    Going to ask you a straight and direct question - in all of the years that Gruden has been coaching, and in the light of what has transrpired over the past week - have you heard or can quote a single player, coach, etc who believes Gruden is a racist? Keyshawn has had an axe to grind with Gruden that has been publicly known for more than a decade. He calls him a "fraud", a "used car salesman". Are those the same as calling him racist?

    You believe he is. He messed up, there's no denying it. But you have pounded the table in this thread (and others, to which I quoted you and you conveniently ignored), and have yet to show a single black source back your assertions....amongst the THOUSANDS he has worked with over the years. He's a massive idiot, a crude loudmouth and a bad play caller. I don't think you'll have anyone argue otherwise. But go ahead, let's see what else you have on the "racist" evidence aside from one email making fun of the NFLPA president for having big lips. We'll wait.
     
    rpn453, ShadowRun and TeamVamos like this.
  10. Spounman Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2017
    Messages:
    4,833
    Likes Received:
    3,522
    Location:
    Nor Cal
    [​IMG]
     
    Hman69 likes this.
  11. Strychnine Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2006
    Messages:
    40,341
    Likes Received:
    18,809
    Location:
    Georgia, USA
    Spot on!

    I don't see why people are whining and crying for a racist.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish!

    Buh-Bye...

    See you later...
     
    sickc0d3r and Jballer like this.
  12. ShadowRun error Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Messages:
    16,333
    Likes Received:
    4,633
  13. BroRogan Red Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2018
    Messages:
    7,569
    Likes Received:
    20,791
    Location:
    Fight Island
    Granted the emails he sent 10 years ago weren't right & distasteful but who among us would be unscathed if emails from the distant past were unearthed & made public? He wasn't employed by anyone involved at the time. The cancel culture is more than a bit out of control.

    Upon further information, I think the NFL wanted to get rid of Gruden. They are being very selective with the emails & information they are releasing. It should be all or nothing.
     
  14. ShadowRun error Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Messages:
    16,333
    Likes Received:
    4,633
    Yea very targeted here .. I hope Roger has dirt I been wanting him out of football for years. Such a bad commissioner
     
    BroRogan likes this.
  15. Anung Un Rama Idol of Millions Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    75,721
    Likes Received:
    7,455
    Location:
    Osgiliath
    <{katwhu}><WhatIsThis><Neil01><Varys01><TheWire1><{clintugh}><Huh2><FookIsThatGuy><6><{danayeah}><{CMPALM}><{Joewithit}><{spoogebab}><{fry}><{ByeHomer}><JerryWWF><23>[<taker1}[<diva2]<{dayum}>{<huh}<1>{<doc}<Kobe213><bball1><{walkerwhut}><{you!}><{Ray1}><Moyes5><{blankeye}><NoneOfMy><{1-10}><{1-17}><JagsKiddingMe>
     
    sickc0d3r and Strychnine like this.
  16. Scerpi Red Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Messages:
    9,668
    Likes Received:
    4,916
    Location:
    Seabrook, TX
    Are you saying you're completely fine with 3rd Parties going through your phone's content without your consent or a warrant?

    Asking for a friend.
     
  17. Anung Un Rama Idol of Millions Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    75,721
    Likes Received:
    7,455
    Location:
    Osgiliath
    just commenting on how specific your example was ...
     
  18. Scerpi Red Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Messages:
    9,668
    Likes Received:
    4,916
    Location:
    Seabrook, TX
    Well.. that was what was being tossed around earlier this summer. That Apple and the authorities were proposing to start scanning phone messages and photos for child porn. That's why I referenced it.

    My issue is... would they stop there? There's far too many examples of authorities abusing power once a door is cracked open.

    IE - In this case. The NFL was reviewing Washington's servers in an investigation and decided to release Jon Gruden's emails.... And he wasn't even an employee with the NFL at the time.

    Why? What about the rest of the emails? Maybe someone at the NFL offices had an ax to grind.... like Roger Goddell when he saw Jon Gruden's personal emails criticizing and making fun of him?

    Boom... Cancel Jon Gruden

    Let me say... What Jon Gruden did was beyond stupid and racist. But it was supposed to be private. Has he ever done anything racist or homophobic in public life or at his work?

    How many other coaches, NFL owners, NFL players would survive the Cancel Culture Mob if contents of their personal messages and emails were publically released? I don't know.. but I'm sure a ton of them would go down... Of all races, not just white.
     
  19. Anung Un Rama Idol of Millions Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    75,721
    Likes Received:
    7,455
    Location:
    Osgiliath
    1. Emails sent on a business computer/ phone are not considered private. Even if they were - these emails were leaked, they weren't released as part of the official investigation. Who leaks stuff like this? Usually a disgruntled person or a person who feels a light needs to be shined on bad behavior. This was more likely released by a paralegal of one of the investigating law firms than Roger Goodall. Think Snowden, Manning, the FB lady. This wasn't some convoluted plot to get the Raiders out of a bad contract. Imaging thinking that?
    2. I'm pretty sure if you're an owner you can survive just about anything. Donald Sterling was still a billionaire after losing the Clippers.
    3. I don't care how many coaches would survive this; hopefully none as they would be exposed as not fit to lead men if they're so ignorant.
    4. Too many players already get away with this type of shit, but they aren't usually in leadership positions so that would be more of a business/ PR decision.
    5. Gruden caved IMMEDIATELY. No fight. He didn't even try to "survive". Why is that? Maybe he was taking personal responsibility for his actions. Some people actually do that.
     
    sickc0d3r, Strychnine and 44nutman like this.
  20. jk7707 Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    10,657
    Likes Received:
    5,871
    Location:
    Teetering over the Carter-Nixon Tunnel
    Probably most decent people? I mean in my entire working adult life I can't remember ever sending emails containing a bunch of juvenile racist shit. If you're sending emails to people containing that kind of stuff in private then you're probably a piece of shit regardless of how you hide it publicly. He was a 48 year old man at the time. He should have known better if he ever had aspirations to coach an NFL team again.
     
    Strychnine likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.