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i never saw a 30% khabib
They don’t have identical records, Khabib is undefeated, Usman isn’t, end of story.They essentially have identical records and accomplishments. Objectively they're about equal.
It says a lot that Masvidal - a journeyman - beat the guy Khabib won the belt of.Irrelevant, Masvidal is a journeyman. He got a profile boost by beating Ben Askren (lol) and Nate Diaz, another journeyman. Usman beating Masvidal twice is what he should’ve done, Masvidal was never in his league.
Usman should've faced an 0-4 guy in his 2nd pro fight just like Khabib, then he would be undefeated.They don’t have identical records, Khabib is undefeated, Usman isn’t, end of story.
Sorry, but your point is beyond asinine.Khabib is top 3 GOAT because of who he beat and how he beat them
Usman has faced multiple journeymen in his title fights and got dropped by one of them
Also, Usman has never faced a "bad matchup", that is bullshit. There isn't anyone like Whittaker or Aldo at welterweight
It says a lot that Masvidal - a journeyman - beat the guy Khabib won the belt of.
Usman is doing multiple title defenses against guys that don't even deserve to fight for the title in the first place (Masvidal), talk about padding the record.Usman should've faced an 0-4 guy in his 2nd pro fight just like Khabib, then he would be undefeated.
usman is one of the goats. But he's had the weakest competition second only to DJ. Not his fault. He fights who's in front of him. Both things can be true.I’ve been saying this years. Usman should be considered one of GOATS but haters are too emotional to accept facts View attachment 870240
Usman is great. But the WW division sucks. Its just Usman and Colby and rest are failed LWs and journeymen. The Twood decision win seems less impressive now given how the rest of his fights played out.
hard to be high on the goat list if your division is trash. just how it is. usman has no control over that.
Usman will need to top GSPs run of title defenses to be placed above khabib.
Because they didn't rob Usman's title shot and they didn't made him wait for 2 years for a deserved title shot?For some reason they're not mentioned in the same vicinity, but when you look at it objectively they should be closely ranked/rated.
Khabib: 13-0, 4-0 title fights, 8 years Total UFC record of Khabib's opponents when facing him: 89-33-1 (2) [71.2% win rate] . Total UFC record of opponents after facing Khabib: 37-40 (1) [47.44% win rate]
Usman: 14-0, 5-0 title fights, 6 years Total UFC record of Usman's opponents when facing him: 110-31-2 [76.92% win rate] . Total UFC record of opponents after facing Usman: 28-21 (1) [56% win rate]
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...but this happened around the same time as this fight, a fight Khabib realistically should have lost.
All in all, they're both generational talents, but I'm tired of seeing them rated differently as if they're not in the same league. As Usman continues to merk people I think this narrative will become more popular.
Till and Askren were relevant wins at the time. Masvidal got a rematch because he's a draw and saved the UFC's ass for the first Fight Island event. It's an anomaly, no need to act like that's the case for every Usman defence.Usman is doing multiple title defenses against guys that don't even deserve to fight for the title in the first place (Masvidal), talk about padding the record.
"Virtually Identical" as Mike Goldberg would sayThey essentially have identical records and accomplishments. Objectively they're about equal.