Nunes vs. Holm

[Drake]

Thats a dream match up for many fans, however due to lack of competition for Rousey Holm is currently on a quest to the top, her next opponent likely a step up in competition. However, I do think those two will meet, my opinion is after Rousey is done with Holm.

Yeah, I don't think it happens next/soon. At some point hopefully.

 

[CELS]

I don't think so. Don't want to kill a contender. Give one of them Kaufman & the other the Pena/Eye winner.

Yeah, Holly vs Nunes makes no sense from the UFC's perspective. They want to build both girls as contenders.

I think Nunes would win, by the way. Unless she lands her shin right on someone's temple, she doesn't really have enough power to knock out someone like Nunes. Holly's jabs and rear leg sidekicks may be enough to puzzle low level fighters and keep them at bay, but I think Amanda Nunes walks through it to land her own, heavier shots.

Holly Holm vs Germaine De Randamie

That's a fight I would want to see. But I think Holly Holm loses that one too. I think Holly Holm needs to fight someone like Alexis Davis, a submission grappler with mediocre striking and mediocre takedowns. That makes it exactly the kind of fight Holly Holm needs. A low risk striking match that she can win on points.

 

[Karakal]

Yeah, Holly vs Nunes makes no sense from the UFC's perspective. They want to build both girls as contenders.

I think Nunes would win, by the way. Unless she lands her shin right on someone's temple, she doesn't really have enough power to knock out someone like Nunes. Holly's jabs and rear leg sidekicks may be enough to puzzle low level fighters and keep them at bay, but I think Amanda Nunes walks through it to land her own, heavier shots.



That's a fight I would want to see. But I think Holly Holm loses that one too. I think Holly Holm needs to fight someone like Alexis Davis, a submission grappler with mediocre striking and mediocre takedowns. That makes it exactly the kind of fight Holly Holm needs. A low risk striking match that she can win on points.

Lol I love how you put Davis as a low risk fighter for Holm. She is a submission specialist and can take hell of a beating with an amazing cardio, she's likely one of the most dangerous fighters that could be put against Holm along with Zingano and Tate.

 

[Karakal]

I'd guess, Nunes rematches Davis and they give Holm someone like Liz.

Cat wont be back for a while.

Cat will be back soon, very soon in fact

 

[CELS]

Lol I love how you put Davis as a low risk fighter for Holm. She is a submission specialist and can take hell of a beating with an amazing cardio, she's likely one of the most dangerous fighters that could be put against Holm along with Zingano and Tate.

Well, she's going to need the ability to take a hell of a beating if she's going to stay in the UFC

I don't get the love for Davis at all. Even before she got to the UFC, I always found her overrated. She's the previous generation of female MMA fighters. The unathletic girls with sloppy striking who rose to the top via years of grappling training and just being tough as nails. She's better than Shayna Baszler and Roxanne Modafferi, but she's the same generation as them and has a lot of similarities.

The love for Alexis Davis and Sarah Kaufman, I never understood. They seem like great people, but I'd rather watch paint dry, personally.

 

[fightdonttweet]

This is exactly what was said about Marion Reneau recently. Who knows, you could be right, but Im not counting Holly out. She has a close fight with an inferior Pennington and then dominates a much better fighter in Reneau....could be the type of fighter that fights up to competition and needed time to settle in, overcome UFC jitters.

She is probably the best striker we have seen in high level MMA aide from Cyborg, and definitely the most cerebral. Looking good against a wrestler that just learned to strike and looking good against a bonafide high level kickboxer are two different things entirely.

Reneau did nothing but stand in front of her. Holm has not looked like a high level striker in any of her fights, she was punching at air for most of the fight against Reneau. You never know, Nunes could also freeze up against Holm but if she fights like she did tonight she should take it easily.

 

[Karakal]

Well, she's going to need the ability to take a hell of a beating if she's going to stay in the UFC

I don't get the love for Davis at all. Even before she got to the UFC, I always found her overrated. She's the previous generation of female MMA fighters. The unathletic girls with sloppy striking who rose to the top via years of grappling training and just being tough as nails. She's better than Shayna Baszler and Roxanne Modafferi, but she's the same generation as them and has a lot of similarities.

The love for Alexis Davis and Sarah Kaufman, I never understood. They seem like great people, but I'd rather watch paint dry, personally.

Ok one thing I can guarantee you is that Davis was never overrated, she was never taken seriously and has made her way up by winning (albeit mostly in unflattering fashion). She has proven to be a top 10 fighter, and her beating Kaufman after losing to her twice is a proof of her improving. When you say "unathletic" is it because she doesn't have flashy attacks as oppose to someone like Ronda or Cat or even Holm? Because neither does Tate but she is a baddass and proves heart, dedication and high fight IQ can compensate for that, which is what Davis has got. Her resume speaks for itself, she is a good fighter.

 

[NeverAgainPlaya]

Yeah, Holly vs Nunes makes no sense from the UFC's perspective. They want to build both girls as contenders.

I think Nunes would win, by the way. Unless she lands her shin right on someone's temple, she doesn't really have enough power to knock out someone like Nunes. Holly's jabs and rear leg sidekicks may be enough to puzzle low level fighters and keep them at bay, but I think Amanda Nunes walks through it to land her own, heavier shots.



That's a fight I would want to see. But I think Holly Holm loses that one too. I think Holly Holm needs to fight someone like Alexis Davis, a submission grappler with mediocre striking and mediocre takedowns. That makes it exactly the kind of fight Holly Holm needs. A low risk striking match that she can win on points.

You don't seem to think too highly of Holm. I'm not a fan. I think she's astoundingly boring, but stylistically speaking, she's going to crush a lot dreams.

The girl is hard to hit flush, moves ridiculously well, has better technical striking skills than anyone in the division and has FAR better TDD than most. She's going to point fight her way to a title shot, which is depressing as hell, if you ask me, but if I'm being real about it, I don't see very many in the division that beat her.

Maybe Tate and Rousey... perhaps Cat on her very best night. Not many others. Nunes could be fun and make it a dangerous fight, conceivably, but I think there are still a few questions hovering over her, especially after the cat fight.

 

[fightdonttweet]

Well, she's going to need the ability to take a hell of a beating if she's going to stay in the UFC

I don't get the love for Davis at all. Even before she got to the UFC, I always found her overrated. She's the previous generation of female MMA fighters. The unathletic girls with sloppy striking who rose to the top via years of grappling training and just being tough as nails. She's better than Shayna Baszler and Roxanne Modafferi, but she's the same generation as them and has a lot of similarities.

The love for Alexis Davis and Sarah Kaufman, I never understood. They seem like great people, but I'd rather watch paint dry, personally.

Well Davis has wins over Nunes, Carmouche, and Eye for starters.

 

[curryjunkie]

Holly Holm vs Germaine De Randamie

de randamie would put the hurts on holm, i think she is highly overated.

 

[iloveufc123]

Holly Holm vs Germaine De Randamie

Would love to see that fight!

 

[kingkshon73]

Yeah, Holly vs Nunes makes no sense from the UFC's perspective. They want to build both girls as contenders.

I think Nunes would win, by the way. Unless she lands her shin right on someone's temple, she doesn't really have enough power to knock out someone like Nunes. Holly's jabs and rear leg sidekicks may be enough to puzzle low level fighters and keep them at bay, but I think Amanda Nunes walks through it to land her own, heavier shots.



That's a fight I would want to see. But I think Holly Holm loses that one too. I think Holly Holm needs to fight someone like Alexis Davis, a submission grappler with mediocre striking and mediocre takedowns. That makes it exactly the kind of fight Holly Holm needs. A low risk striking match that she can win on points.

It's way to risky for the UFC too try and build Holm Nunes and Cyborg to fight Ronda with out anyone losing. The only 2 of them are gonna get in there.

 

[Jon Lock]

I think only Ronda wins Holm (Holm has a style that can hinder more than any other opponent)

 

[MuyThaiElbows]

Nunes vs Holm for the next title shot is what should happen.

 

[CELS]

Ok one thing I can guarantee you is that Davis was never overrated, she was never taken seriously and has made her way up by winning (albeit mostly in unflattering fashion). She has proven to be a top 10 fighter, and her beating Kaufman after losing to her twice is a proof of her improving. When you say "unathletic" is it because she doesn't have flashy attacks as oppose to someone like Ronda or Cat or even Holm? Because neither does Tate but she is a baddass and proves heart, dedication and high fight IQ can compensate for that, which is what Davis has got. Her resume speaks for itself, she is a good fighter.

She has a pretty big fanbase among hardcore WMMA fans, I think. The people who followed WMMA before the UFC.

When I say unathletic it's because her movement is awkward. Holm doesn't really have too many flashy attacks, except for the occasional axe kick or hook kick. But Holm's athleticism shines through in the way she moves. And of course, her striking technique is very good for a female fighter.

I do agree Davis has fight IQ, dedication and heart. But I don't think that will be enough for female fighters in the future. The next generation of female fighters has technique and athleticism on top of that. They improve faster, they hit harder, they have a more refined understanding of striking. Better footwork, better feints, better counters.

You don't seem to think too highly of Holm. I'm not a fan. I think she's astoundingly boring, but stylistically speaking, she's going to crush a lot dreams.
The girl is hard to hit flush, moves ridiculously well, has better technical striking skills than anyone in the division and has FAR better TDD than most. She's going to point fight her way to a title shot, which is depressing as hell, if you ask me, but if I'm being real about it, I don't see very many in the division that beat her.

I think Raquel Pennington won a round against Holly Holm in what was mostly striking with only a little bit of clinchwork against the cage. It took Raquel a little bit of time to find out that she had been giving Holly too much respect, I think. After a while, she grew more confident. I think Holly's future opponents will watch that fight and Holly's last fight against Marion Reneau and they'll want to put more pressure on Holly. Holly Holm thrives on long distance engagements. She can defend takedowns, but does she have the chin and the power to deal with a confident brawler or pressure fighter? Hell, I'm not a Leslie Smith fan at all - AT ALL! - but Leslie Smith is someone with a good chin and supreme faith in her ability to eat shots from any girl in the BW division. She has terrible technique and just throws every king of sloppy punch and kick as she comes forward, but she's a difficult opponent for fighters who are used to holding their opponents at bay.

I'd be interested to see how Holly Holm deals with someone like that, someone who gives zero fucks about Holly's jab or step-in sidekicks.

Maybe Tate and Rousey... perhaps Cat on her very best night. Not many others. Nunes could be fun and make it a dangerous fight, conceivably, but I think there are still a few questions hovering over her, especially after the cat fight.

Cat is another fighter who would just bite down on her mouthpiece and walk through Holly Holm's punches at some point, I think. I think Cat Zingano would make Holly Holm eat strawberries, like she did against Miesha Tate. Her clinchwork is brutal, she wouldn't even need to take Holly down.

Well Davis has wins over Nunes, Carmouche, and Eye for starters.

Nunes was a different fighter when they fought. Nunes improves ten times as fast as Davis, and that's a fact.

Carmouche and Jessica Eye, I've never been sold on either of them.

It's way to risky for the UFC too try and build Holm Nunes and Cyborg to fight Ronda with out anyone losing. The only 2 of them are gonna get in there.

You may be right about that.