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Lawmakers warn of 'radical' move by NSA to share information

A bipartisan pair of lawmakers is expressing alarm at reported changes at the National Security Agency that would allow the intelligence service’s information to be used for policing efforts in the United States.

“If media accounts are true, this radical policy shift by the NSA would be unconstitutional, and dangerous,” Reps. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) and Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) wrote in a letter to the spy agency this week. “The proposed shift in the relationship between our intelligence agencies and the American people should not be done in secret.

“NSA’s mission has never been, and should never be, domestic policing or domestic spying.”
The NSA has yet to publicly announce the change, but The New York Times reported last month that the administration was poised to expand the agency's ability to share information that it picks up about people’s communications with other intelligence agencies.

The modification would open the door for the NSA to give the FBI and other federal agencies uncensored communications of foreigners and Americans picked up incidentally — but without a warrant — during sweeps.

Robert Litt, the general counsel at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, told the Times that it was finalizing a 21-page draft of procedures to allow the expanded sharing.

Separately, the Guardian reported earlier this month that the FBI had quietly changed its internal privacy rules to allow direct access to the NSA’s massive storehouse of communication data picked up on Internet service providers and websites.

The revelations unnerved civil liberties advocates, who encouraged lawmakers to demand answers of the spy agency.

“Under a policy like this, information collected by the NSA would be available to a host of federal agencies that may use it to investigate and prosecute domestic crimes,” said Neema Singh Guliani, legislative counsel and the American Civil Liberties Union. “Making such a change without authorization from Congress or the opportunity for debate would ignore public demands for greater transparency and oversight over intelligence activities.”

In their letter this week, Lieu and Farenthold warned that the NSA’s changes would undermine Congress and unconstitutionally violate people’s privacy rights.

“The executive branch would be violating the separation of powers by unilaterally transferring warrantless data collected under the NSA’s extraordinary authority to domestic agencies, which do not have such authority,” they wrote.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-about-unconstitutional-dangerous-nsa-changes

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OK folks, I think at some point we need to all recognize this is not about keeping us safe.

This is an assault on the US constitution that both left and right need to unite to stop.


Also, the arrogance, and tone deaf hubris here of the NSA's leadership needs to be called into question.

Discuss.
 
Well yea, anyone who isn't a tyrant cock sucking retard saw that the NSA spying will be used mainly against Americans and not terrorists.

Destroy the Constitution. You're racist if you want rights. We're going to spy on you, but don't worry we'll teach your 5 year old girl to have sex when she's in kindergarten and we'll tell your boy that he's actually a little girl in school. If your boy has any spark of life, we are going to give him meth and other mind altering drugs to control him. We're going to outlaw terms like he and she. That's freedom you piece of shit.
 
I'll never be for further intrusion into American privacy but some part of me says, if you have nothing to hide, then who cares.
 
I'll never be for further intrusion into American privacy but some part of me says, if you have nothing to hide, then who cares.

Well this is a stupid way to think. "I'm not using this right today, therefore throw it in the fucking trash and let the nazi state rise."

Well I'm not Jewish so who cares.

Well I don't do drugs so who cares if the government declares they own my mind and that I'm not a free man.

Well I don't own a house so who cares about warrentless searches and seizure.

Well I'm not a woman so who cares about equal rights.

Because one day they will go after you.
 
I'll never be for further intrusion into American privacy but some part of me says, if you have nothing to hide, then who cares.

I can tell you why, because Anthony Wiener.

Maybe Anthony Wiener accidentally sent two dic pics to 40,000 Twitter followers, and maybe he was doing something that rustled some powerful interests, and was taken down.
 
Well this is a stupid way to think. "I'm not using this right today, therefore throw it in the fucking trash and let the nazi state rise."

Well I'm not Jewish so who cares.

Well I don't do drugs so who cares if the government declares they own my mind and that I'm not a free man.

Well I don't own a house so who cares about warrentless searches and seizure.

Well I'm not a woman so who cares about equal rights.

Because one day they will go after you.
In case you missed it "I'll never be for further intrusion into American privacy"
 
In case you missed it "I'll never be for further intrusion into American privacy"

Hey, you actually are reading about this issue. That makes you superior to 90% of people.

FYI, for many of us the idea that if you have nothing to hide....ect, is a trigger phrase.

It is repeated ad nauseum. Comes across at some point like a propaganda talking point.
 
I was generally on board, though I would have phrased it differently:
Well yea, anyone who isn't a tyrant cock sucking retard saw that the NSA spying will be used mainly against Americans and not terrorists.
Then you went to crazy town:
Destroy the Constitution. You're racist if you want rights. We're going to spy on you, but don't worry we'll teach your 5 year old girl to have sex when she's in kindergarten and we'll tell your boy that he's actually a little girl in school. If your boy has any spark of life, we are going to give him meth and other mind altering drugs to control him. We're going to outlaw terms like he and she. That's freedom you piece of shit.
The second part of your post is borderline incoherent and over the line idiotic.
 
I was generally on board, though I would have phrased it differently:
Then you went to crazy town:

The second part of your post is borderline incoherent and over the line idiotic.

In his defense, so is the idea that we are all going to die in a terror attack if we don't light the US constitution on fire, but yeah, it was over the top.

I think he meant it to be over the top though.

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Well yea, anyone who isn't a tyrant cock sucking retard saw that the NSA spying will be used mainly against Americans and not terrorists.

Destroy the Constitution. You're racist if you want rights. We're going to spy on you, but don't worry we'll teach your 5 year old girl to have sex when she's in kindergarten and we'll tell your boy that he's actually a little girl in school. If your boy has any spark of life, we are going to give him meth and other mind altering drugs to control him. We're going to outlaw terms like he and she. That's freedom you piece of shit.
Will the wall be used mainly against Mexicans?
 
I bet 90% of this "intel" will be to bust low level drug dealers.
 
Police State nearing completion.


Cameras on every corner, Drones in the Skies, Smartphones have ears and eyes ...what a surprise that the authority would take advantage of the gullible unsuspecting citizens ....

Don't you understand....in order to be "Free" we have to take away your freedoms ...you know ...to protect you and keep you "Free" ...

lmao this shit is getting scary ...look no further to what happened in Boston after the Marathon incident for a peak into how the Police State will act in your neighborhood.


You were Warned long ago....


 
I was generally on board, though I would have phrased it differently:
Then you went to crazy town:

The second part of your post is borderline incoherent and over the line idiotic.

Yea well you need the daily show to spoon feed you happy thoughts. Sorry I'm not going use a spoon and make air plane sounds while I explain how the world works to you.
 
Yea well you need the daily show to spoon feed you happy thoughts. Sorry I'm not going use a spoon and make air plane sounds while I explain how the world works to you.
Tell me more!
 
Now this thread makes me sad. My cable company dropped Comedy Central a few years ago and I haven't watched the Daily Show since about mid-2012.
 
i really dont want the NSA to turn its eye on everyday Joe's- but at the same time, people openly give away more about themselves to google and facebook than even the NSA knows about them.
 

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