Not the only one on certs being worthless

i guess when you're rippetoe it no longer matters. but i'd think for a lot of PT's getting into the game, you better have those certification initials on your resume.


sadly, i feel like most places would rather see that cert. on your resume than something worthwhile (competition history, workshops, etc.)
 
Depends on the place. I have a client portfolio etc. logs of all of their workouts and diets dating back ten years. Folks can thumb through that if they like. But you are correct, at this point it doesn't matter to him.
 
if i didn't like rip independent of crossfit (reminder to self: buy practical programming), i'd assume it was just crossfit propaganda.

but even you have client logs and success stories, etc. but if, say, i were get into the game, i'd have to base my resume on what i have personally achieved and what the people who've trained me have achieved.
 
but then again, if they only care about that cert and nothing else.. do i really want to work for them?
 
hey, what happened to my response?

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In fact, I think this thread is missing a whole page.
 
No, you responded in the S&P. Come on man.
 
No not everyone does. Do you see Carnal in here? Barut? Fatkid. For once just shut your yap when you don't know what you are talking about. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need for two sub forums, now would there?:icon_lol:
 
Vedic said:
For once just shut your yap when you don't know what you are talking about.
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You really love that gif huh? LMAO! That shit makes me laugh.
 
Ripp's awesome.

F**K all the little shits at Sport and Health that tell me not to do squat jumps and jerks. F*g*t*s.
 
Vedic, I thought you weren't going to post here any longer :D. It just goes to show that you love us and you can't stay away.
 
Okay....hmm...I feel the need to respond since I'm a physical therapist and I do have my CSCS.

You know what, I agree with what Rip is saying. Having a CSCS certification doesn't make you a badass in the strength and conditioning field. I wanted to get the certification to work more with the wellness aspect of physical fitness. Instead what I got was a better rehashing of my ex phys classes from PT school. What I really got was, I was able to treat injured clients better and get them to transition to sports specific activities. NOT so much information on enhancing performance of WELL clients.

I went to the NSCA convention in Vegas and I was surprised to find a lot of the speakers covering topics more in the realm of sports medicine (and corrective exercises) or exercising special populations like Multiple sclerosis. Some of the topics dealt with nutrition. I feel like the NSCA is strongly influenced by the medical field.

From that standpoint, there's a shift in the rehab field. People are being discharged from care sooner and sooner because of insurance companies cutting back on reimbursement. People can't afford to pay a physical therapist for an out of pocket visit, so they see a personal trainer...for better or worse.

So in a sense, the NSCA is responding to the demand of the population. They are preparing trainers to see more injured clients. Fatass clients. Clients with lots of comorbidities. That's what the population is, if you really look around. Are you enhancing their strength? Are you enhancing their conditioning? I would argue yes.

I agree with Vedic in that certifications...when it comes down to it, certs are absolute bullshit, especially if you don't work hard at improving your knowledge base. You don't need a certification if you have the passion and drive to learn something and apply it. Certification is really more for marketing. It just makes your client feel comfortable that you have a certain knowledge base.
 
Chad Hamilton said:
Ripp's awesome.

F**K all the little shits at Sport and Health that tell me not to do squat jumps and jerks. F*g*t*s.
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By the way, there are physical therapists who will tell you to do squat jumps and jerks. Martin Rooney who heads up the Parisi Speed school and Grey Cook who works with NFL teams.
 
I totally agree with him. When I worked solely as a trainer, I had an ISSA basic cert. The guys who had college degrees in kinesiology would work out with me and we'd bounce stuff off of each other as equals (even some who looked down on me for not taking sports medicine/kinesiology in college.)

Now, I still train a few people and run a workshop now and then. People are incredibly impressed by my Police Training Commission cert. I new more than the instructor the minute I walked through the door. So did the cockroach skittering on the floor (it was in Newark.)

If you want money, get it to avoid looking like a layman then live the life style and either specialize one field or become an encyclopedia on diverse, holistic matters.
 
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