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Not that I would ever want them banned but do suplexes

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Not that I would ever want them banned but do suplexes fall into a grey area on the head spiking rule ?
 
Yeah they do, I think for them to be judged illegal it has to be 'intentional', which... yeah.

And the fact is that is a dangerous move to be doing, but damn I still want to see it
 
No, because head-spiking involves controlling the head when slamming, which is nigh-impossible with the suplex.
 
Not that I would ever want them banned but do suplexes fall into a grey area on the head spiking rule ?


The head spike has to be a vertical slam, directly on the head. Like a Pile Driver.

Not really a takedown related move, but a move that it's purpose is to cause the most damage as well.

Suplex is trying to land them on the shoulders.

Head spiking is putting them directly on their head, on purpose.
 
Getting spiked on the head is no joke.



MMA fighter Jeff Dunbar fought Rudy Bahena last weekend as part of the Fight Card Entertainment event that took place in Joliet, Illinois on December 17th, 2011. The freak-accident started when Bahena stuck to Dunbar’s back and sinked in a standing rear-naked choke. Instead of tapping out, Dunbar tried something UFC fighter Tyson Griffin did in his fight against Clay Guida at UFC 72. The 20-year old Dunbar desperately dove forward in hopes to shake off the choke, but instead he hurled both himself and his opponent forward. The weight was too much for Dunbar’s neck to handle, which led to instant paralysis. His doctors say he won’t be able to ever use his legs and will be placed in a wheel chair. He may get some use of his arms back, but there’s a 95% chance he’ll never get to use his hands either.
 
Getting spiked on the head is no joke.


Jesus. That's terrible.

There are a few techniques that freak me out for this reason.

Primarily neck cranks. every time I see one Im terrified they're gonna break someone's neck. I mean, what happens if Mir catches Nog in a crank or a twister or something? I think they should be disallowed. Just choke a dude. Don't mess around with the neck.
 
It seemed like the dude was intentionally trying to land him on his head tonight. He didn't really gain much position-wise by doing it.
 
Just like breakfalls in judo, wrestlers are taught, at least we were, on how to land properly after a suplex.

Over and over again we would get in a line and get thrown onto a crash pad by a coach so that we would learn not to panic mid-air and do something stupid. Don't stick your arms out, don't fight it once you are airborne. You are going for a ride, just enjoy the flight.

This should not be a part of a spiking discussion because that is not the intent. I don't quite get the purpose in mma either. In wrestling throws like that get you more points. In mma you end up often in the turtle position and expend quite a bit of energy to perform the throw.
 
One of those injuries or a death from a supplex in the UFC is all that it'll take to get them banned. Dont want them banned but that was his second KO slam... he knew what he was doing.
 
Learn how to take a fall like in pro wrestling and judo I guess. I don't know. These guys are supposed to be cream of the crop yet they aren't tucking their heads in for falls and sticking their arms out like dumbies to stop the fall.
 
Not that I would ever want them banned but do suplexes fall into a grey area on the head spiking rule ?

Serious dude shut up. Go watch Nascar and see cars do circles.

(That's right a double post. I also double dip.)
 
Head spikes are banned because there is a risk of serious spinal cord injury. Not the case for a side impact like what happened during these suplexes.
 
Serious dude shut up. Go watch Nascar and see cars do circles.

(That's right a double post. I also double dip.)

Screw you too I'm an Aussie and not really into NASCAR.
Others seem to be able to throw up interesting view without being dicks, maybe you should try it you never know you might just like it.
 
Suplexes should not be banned. If you know how to land, they are not that dangerous. Great example of this is fedor vs randleman. Fedor tucked his chin, and he wasnt even that hurt from the greatest suplex in history. That is because he knows how to fall properly.

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