Social Not so free to speak: Columbia University ‘refusing to help’ identify people for arrest – White House

[Cool Hand Luke]

Could've fooled me.

Of course not, apologists for the regime never want to get into the details.

Trump has already deported people who he was ordered not to, who is to say Khalil ever gets his day in court before he's deported? And if that were to happen I'm sure you'll be right there with an excuse as to why its not a big deal.

Keep making it about me, Islam. Your passive aggressive little comments are pretty cute as usual.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Keep making it about me, Islam. Your passive aggressive little comments are pretty cute as usual.

First off you're the one who made it about you to begin with

I don't know, I'm just telling you through my experience with Green Cards and US Citizenship. It was made clear to me by INS that the visas could be rescinded at any time. As said, I just found out that even as a naturalized citizen, I can also lose my citizenship status if I'm found to have lied on my application form.

And the one who was being passive aggressive and trying to make it about one of us here was you

You're making this about me - it's not about me - its about you not being able to accept what's happening. I'm just telling you my experience and what was explained to me by INS. If you don't like it, tough luck, kiddo.

I'll give you a lesson too - you don't like what's happening, I get that. You think it's unfair, I get that too. But trying to lecture me on civics because you don't like what's happening, doesn't mean you're right. We're not talking about other court battles, we're talking about immigration but If Trump and his administration are doing things illegally then Khalil will have his day in court. If he is innocent, I hope he sues and wins enough to buy 4 Teslas. I for one, hope he didn't participate in anything illegal and that this is a broad overeach. However, if he did participate in the illegalities they claim, then him and the rest are gone. Sorry.

I'd rather talk about the details of the case and the wider principle of free speech and the Trump regime's attack on it but you're uninterested in that and would rather make passive aggressive comments about me. Normally I don't like to accuse people of this but you're demonstrating a classic case of projection.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

First off you're the one who made it about you to begin with

And the one who was being passive aggressive and trying to make it about one of us here was you


I'd rather talk about the details of the case and the wider principle of free speech and the Trump regime's attack on it but you're uninterested in that and would rather make passive aggressive comments about me. Normally I don't like to accuse people of this but you're demonstrating a classic case of projection.

Yes I know, it's my fault again. Anything else you'd like to discuss? How's the fasting month going? Ramadan Kareem btw.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Yes I know, it's my fault again.

And you were accusing me of being the passive aggressive one, how rich.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

And you were accusing me of being the passive aggressive one, how rich.

I'll remember to reach out to you at the end of the month, when you need to seek forgiveness - I give it freely. Have a great day and enjoy your iftar this evening.

 

[oldshadow]

The only exception to that are those who are national security threats, what has Mahmoud done to suggest he's a national security threat?

Where did he support terrorism? Has the Trump regime produced even a single shred of evidence of this?

Will Trump listen though? He's already ignoring court orders as is and I'm sure you'll support him in that every step of the way.

The sate department says they have post that state his support.

Trump has stated he will follow the law and the courts bit he will fight it legally as he should.

 

[Islam Imamate]

The sate department says they have post that state his support.

Post? As in, speech and not material support? You don't see anything wrong with that?

Trump has stated he will follow the law and the courts bit he will fight it legally as he should.

Quite the contrary, regime allies have openly criticized the courts and threatened impeachment in response to unfavorable rulings. And all along the way you'll make excuses for it.

 

[avenue94]

The sate department says they have post that state his support.

Trump has stated he will follow the law and the courts bit he will fight it legally as he should.

And you find it credible their excuse that they can't share this post because it's too much for the poor virgin eyes of the American public? Talk about safe spaces.

 

[kflo]

What does support terror organizations here mean? I'm almost certain it wouldn't refer to protected speech but rather material support for terrorism. And where is the evidence that Mahmoud supported terrorism?

And notice how selectively this is applied. We have non-profits that funnel money to Israeli settlers, some of which engage in armed intimidation of Palestinians for the purpose of expulsion. Why is that not seen as supporting terrorism?

i'm not saying there's sufficient evidence he meets these standards, but these be the rules that are relevant (as i see it):


Any alien who-

(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;

(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));

(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;

(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of-

• (aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
• (bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;

(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);

(VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;

(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;

(VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or

(IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,


is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.

(F) Association with terrorist organizations​

Any alien who the Secretary of State, after consultation with the Attorney General, or the Attorney General, after consultation with the Secretary of State, determines has been associated with a terrorist organization and intends while in the United States to engage solely, principally, or incidentally in activities that could endanger the welfare, safety, or security of the United States is inadmissible.

 

[Scott Stapp]

While civil liberties groups focus on core American principals of freedom of speech, MTF’s own social media presence is managed by individuals who might not have as deep a familiarity with the First Amendment. According to Facebook, two of the seven managers of the massively popular Facebook page targeting Khalil, Columbia, and American college campuses are based thousands of miles away in Israel.

The Israeli-American Trump mega-donor behind speech crackdowns

Miriam Adelson is more than a funder of the Maccabee Task Force, she's also its president

responsiblestatecraft.org

 

[oldshadow]

Post? As in, speech and not material support? You don't see anything wrong with that?

Quite the contrary, regime allies have openly criticized the courts and threatened impeachment in response to unfavorable rulings. And all along the way you'll make excuses for it.

He is a guest in this country so his post can get him deported.

Trump has said that he will follow the law. They believe the judge overstepped his authority and knew it. They believe for that he should be impeached. That's not going to happen even if a higher court says he did overstep.

 

[oldshadow]

And you find it credible their excuse that they can't share this post because it's too much for the poor virgin eyes of the American public? Talk about safe spaces.

It's not about that they say it's would harm the continuing investigation in to others.

We will see what happens in the courts. They will have to present a case but it could only be the judge that sees what they are talking about. It's up to the courts to have the final say.

 

[avenue94]

It's not about that they say it's would harm the continuing investigation in to others.

We will see what happens in the courts. They will have to present a case but it could only be the judge that sees what they are talking about. It's up to the courts to have the final say.

What harm would revealing posts be? We're not talking confidential informants here most likely, and presumably the evidence either was public or required a warrant.

 

[scoopj]

And you were accusing me of being the passive aggressive one, how rich.

That's passive, not passive aggressive. He's shown no aggression. Why don't you let it go?

 

[Islam Imamate]

That's passive, not passive aggressive. He's shown no aggression. Why don't you let it go?

First off I did ya goober but secondly, this is a forum where we discuss things and I was pushing the issue because I felt like it. In fact its called the War Room for a reason. If the Mayberry stray can't handle it then he's free to go back from whence he came and either way I don't think he needs your intervention. Capisce?

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

lol Mayberry stray.

I like it.

 

[scoopj]

First off I did ya goober but secondly, this is a forum where we discuss things and I was pushing the issue because I felt like it. In fact its called the War Room for a reason. If the Mayberry stray can't handle it then he's free to go back from whence he came and either way I don't think he needs your intervention. Capisce?

Just be honest though. Don't lie and say he was being passive aggressive. I thought you were better than that.

 

[HereticBD]

That's passive, not passive aggressive. He's shown no aggression. Why don't you let it go?

Because he's a Karen. Seriously, guy picks members to stalk and annoy over the tiniest of details of an argument that he's having in his head. @Cajun was his last love.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

@Cajun is dreamy though

 

[Islam Imamate]

Just be honest though. Don't lie and say he was being passive aggressive. I thought you were better than that.

I wasn't lying, he was being passive aggressive despite accusing me of it. Here's a definition of passive aggression

Passive-aggressive behavior is a pattern of indirectly expressing negative feelings instead of openly addressing them. There's a disconnect between what a person who exhibits passive-aggressive behavior says and what he or she does.

This post is classic passive aggression

Yes I know, it's my fault again.

In this post do you think he's actually admitting fault or is this not a passive aggressive comment where instead of addressing my claims directly he's instead using sarcasm to communicate his disapproval?

And hilarious of you to tell me to "drop it" as you spark up the argument again. I would much rather talk about the details of the case and the wider attack on free speech by the Trump regime but you and CHL are more worried about hurt feelings and keeping a hugbox atmosphere. We have the Mayberry for that, the War Room is for political discussions that might get heated.