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Not enough migrants arriving to keep pay down - Central Bank

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  1. F1980 Green Belt

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    What the hell is this? Why do they wanna keep wages down? Don't people wanna get paid more? Then why are they importing people in record numbers to keep people's paychecks low?

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/top...ving-to-keep-pay-down-central-bank/ar-AAF2qCp
     
  2. Amerikuracana Life allows the illusion of relativity Banned

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    Start in Virginia, work your way East to the "central bank." Remind the suburban misdemeanor domestic violence/speeding ticket task forces along the way that their large retirements are safe in the end, and tell the military "it's time." They'll know. That should help with the problem stated in the OP.

    I'm... Kidding. Of course.
     
  3. TheGreatA Gold Belt

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    Common sense dictates that your skills as a labourer will be valued more when they are deemed more irreplaceable by employers.

    Being anti-immigration is the number 1 agenda to any working man. Everything else comes 2nd. Literally everything. You have to be extremely strict about anybody coming in, and whether their skills are truly needed, or whether they're simply going to be brought in to devalue everyone else, even when there's already a sufficient amount of workers to fill the needs.

    Don't let any corporate tool or university student tell you different. Sentimentality towards other people's "plights" doesn't play a factor here.

    The reason why America's wages, for example, haven't really increased in decades is because they've always managed to bring in more and more workers to replace the old, with cheaper and cheaper wages, sometimes even without equal human rights (in the case of illegals). Things were different in the mid-19th century when America was more strict about their border. Wages were rising steadily and the labour force demanded more respect.
     
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  4. Amerikuracana Life allows the illusion of relativity Banned

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    This was the fake stance of democrats until somebody ACTUALLY tried to do something about the border. Then the money guided dems away from it easy as pie, and the idiot followers just changed their beliefs in a snap.
     
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  5. TheGreatA Gold Belt

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    Obama did alright, Bernie made some promises in the 2016 campaign, but subsequent Democrat takes on the subject have been far from convincing.

    Difficult to see them as anything but corporate puppets, at this point.
     
  6. HockeyBjj Putting on the foil Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Low skill migrants entering the country and willing to do low/no skill jobs for a lower rate than the natives do is good for businesses and bad for wage growth

    Or did you belive the democrats that this doesn't lead to lower pay at the bottom? Lol
     
  7. TheGreatA Gold Belt

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    This was a rather basic "common sense" perspective on the subject by Obama in 2005:

    When Congress last addressed this issue comprehensively in 1986, there were approximately four million illegal immigrants living here. [In December 2005], it is estimated there are more than 11 million. We are a generous and welcoming people, but those who enter our country illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we simply cannot allow people to pour into the U.S. undetected, undocumented and unchecked. Americans are right to demand better border security and better enforcement of the immigration laws.

    To begin with, the agencies charged with border security require new technology, new facilities and more people to stop, process and deport illegal immigrants. But while security might start at our borders, it doesn’t end there. Millions of illegal immigrants live and work here without our knowing their identity or background. That’s why we need a guest-worker program to replace the flood of illegals with a regulated stream of legals who enter the U.S. after checks and with access to labor rights. This would enhance our security, raise wages and improve working conditions for all Americans.

    American employers also need to take responsibility. Too often illegal immigrants are lured here with the promise of a job, only to receive unconscionably low wages. In the interest of cheap labor, unscrupulous employers look the other way when employees provide fraudulent U.S. citizenship documents. These acts hurt both American workers and immigrants whose sole aim is to work hard and get ahead. That’s why we need a simple, foolproof and mandatory mechanism for all employers to check the legal status of new hires.

    https://www.truthorfiction.com/2005-obama-immigration-quote/
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB113461703274523154


    Don't know why anybody would be led to believe any different.
     
  8. Mendacious Banned Banned

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    What a sensational title. They made a prediction and you’re making it out to be like they want low wages.
     
  9. Headkicktoleg Banned Banned

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    The really started to stagnate when women entered the work force. I'm not at all against women working, but pretty much doubling the work force is going to have a negative effect on wages. It's just common sense. So we now live in a world where two adults need to work instead of one.
     
  10. TheGreatA Gold Belt

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    Not only the women, but immigration increased massively from 1940's and 1950's, to 1980's and 1990's. Not to mention scumbag policies adopted by the likes of Reagan and others.

    Many Americans forget that during the mid-19th century, they saw almost zero immigration whatsoever (railing against the commonly held belief that America is a "country of immigrants"), yet they also became the richest and most powerful country in the world during those years, which again, rails against the logic that America needs immigration to survive.

    There was a time when America was a land of opportunity, for sure, with unoccupied lands which required bodies, but nowadays, all the people coming in, will be going to the same cities as everyone else. So you have to ask the question whether you want to be another China or stay as America.

    It appears to me that America focusing on their own untapped potential, taking care of their people, yields the best results for them. 300+ million population should be roughly enough.

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    Not saying everything is directly correlated, as there are many factors to be accounted for, but it's something to think about.
     
  11. Cole train Gold Belt

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    My mother thought it was hilarious that women basically forced themselfs to go to work instead of chilling at home.

    (She was raised traditional gender role way)
     
  12. bobgeese Banned Banned

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    That’s impossible, liberals on shartdog assured us illegals didn’t drag down wages.
     
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    ive only been saying this for fuckin ever!!!!!!!

    seal the borders. Save the American worker. Destroy globalism. Send back the unwanted migrants who are not coming “to make our nation better”
     
  14. Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    Yeah, this is why wages in Tuvalu and Seychelles are super high, too. The demand for labor never changes so the fewer workers there are, the higher they get paid. It's just logic.
     
  15. ookii Red Belt

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    The more influx of immigrants, the better the chance it is for that handyman to give a better quote than $800 to change a measly pool pipe valve in under 30 minutes

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  16. eternaldarkness Banned Banned

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    They do..
     
  17. Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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  18. HunterSdVa29 Respect, tho

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    Globalism isn't about helping the working population...…not of industrialized nations anyway; that's like literally step 1. Which is why they also push for mass immigration, it ensures clowns actually vote for this bs, and brings in low wage labor
     

  19. I saw that post too. What a dirt bag man.
     
  20. kenetics Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    You forget to add some of the lazy and entitled Americans who won't do the jobs regardless of pay. Those jobs don't interest their social media lives... Don't kid yourself.
     

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