Not a very happy Xmas. Got some legal questions to ask...

Jeebers, what he doing throwing punches in bunches at a girl?

Get him to see a counsellor - if he's at uni or tafe, there'll be a service for free. Aside from actual benefits, it might look good in front of the magistrate.
 
I can't stand mouthy chicks who think their untouchable. I know violence again women is frowned upon but I'm glad that chick got her jaw broken.
 
I have quite a bit of quasi legal experience in Aus from various jobs that I have had, so I will offer some advice and commentary.

First off, your brother is a dickhead for hitting anyone based on a verbal confrontation. The fact that he is a trained boxer and it is a girl, well, colour me stupid. He is going to have to take his lumps.

1. Right now, today, this fucking minute get him in an Anger Management or other suitable rehab program you can find. Voluntary steps toward rehabilitation are looked at very favourably by the court, even more so if they are voluntary and not organised by a solicitor.

2. Fuck legal aid. They are so overwhelmed they are really just there on the day to help with procedural matters in front of a magistrate and make sure the paperwork is ok. They are not going to be doing much behind the scenes to assist you as you will be one of 250 assault cases the Legal Aid Lawyer will have currently on the books. Along with 500 drug possession charges, 250 Break and enters, and 300 Violence Restraining Orders.

Beg, borrow, scrimp save, or get a loan. Get a lawyer who specialises in assault or GBH who can help you plead down the charges.

3. If you have not already you need to create a detailed written contemparaneous record of exactly what happened. This should detail the nights events in as much relevant detail as possible. Do not colour it to try to make your position look better, it should be an accurate record. This will assist both of you in recall and help make your recall stronger. Helps to have this well documented as you will be asked via cross examination to review the nights events.

It is your lawyers job to use the events and give mitigating circumstances that the magistrate may use in your favour in sentencing.

4. Plead guilty to whatever you can get the charges knocked down to. Prepare, write down and practice an apology to the girl/other parties. You are not going to win this case with a John Grisham twist.

5. Raid an op shop or whatever you have to do to appear in a suit, tie and decent shoes. Be respectful in court. You'd be suprised what a difference the right attitude and a neat and contrite demeanour can make.

6. Tell your brother to grow the fuck up. And don't listen to the misoginistic mongoloids on this site. Belting girls is not on. Be the bigger person.
 
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your brother did a really terrible thing. He'll be in jail for a bit, I don't have much of a doubt about that.

No one should start swinging over verbal stuff, unless it's a violent threat. Hitting a woman who is mouthing off? There just isn't any excuse. Your brother might be able to get probation and anger management, but I could see him getting a bit of jail time as well. Hopefully your family has a bit of money to get a lawyer that specializes in this stuff.
 
Only made it through page one, but dude, wtf was your brother thinking hitting a chick? Sure she said some stupid shit (didn't see if you said what it was) but if it were me, I would have looked at the dude and said something like "You need to get your bitch to stfu!" and let him defend her... Hitting a woman is never justified if she isn't a physical threat to your safety. If she had pulled a weapon on him or something, I would understand, but a woman running her mouth is less dangerous than a Chihuahua with rabies...
 
Did your mother get put in her place a lot when you were growing up? Does your gf get put in her place often

Seriously. Some of the people here I'd cross the fucking road to avoid. Probably the sort that would have pulled a gun on them for good measure.

It was part of a proposed reform to the anti-discrimination laws, but that was actually the part which got it canned.

I'm not surprised. How on earth do you legally define causing offence to someone?
 
I can't stand mouthy chicks who think their untouchable. I know violence again women is frowned upon but I'm glad that chick got her jaw broken.

when i think of the stereotypical sherdog keyboard warrior, this guy is exactly what i picture
 
I have quite a bit of quasi legal experience in Aus from various jobs that I have had, so I will offer some advice and commentary.

First off, your brother is a dickhead for hitting anyone based on a verbal confrontation. The fact that he is a trained boxer and it is a girl, well, colour me stupid. He is going to have to take his lumps.

1. Right now, today, this fucking minute get him in an Anger Management or other suitable rehab program you can find. Voluntary steps toward rehabilitation are looked at very favourably by the court, even more so if they are voluntary and not organised by a solicitor.

2. Fuck legal aid. They are so overwhelmed they are really just there on the day to help with procedural matters in front of a magistrate and make sure the paperwork is ok. They are not going to be doing much behind the scenes to assist you as you will be one of 250 assault cases the Legal Aid Lawyer will have currently on the books. Along with 500 drug possession charges, 250 Break and enters, and 300 Violence Restraining Orders.

Beg, borrow, scrimp save, or get a loan. Get a lawyer who specialises in assault or GBH who can help you plead down the charges.


3. If you have not already you need to create a detailed written contemparaneous record of exactly what happened. This should detail the nights events in as much relevant detail as possible. Do not colour it to try to make your position look better, it should be an accurate record. This will assist both of you in recall and help make your recall stronger. Helps to have this well documented as you will be asked via cross examination to review the nights events.

It is your lawyers job to use the events and give mitigating circumstances that the magistrate may use in your favour in sentencing.

4. Plead guilty to whatever you can get the charges knocked down to. Prepare, write down and practice an apology to the girl/other parties. You are not going to win this case with a John Grisham twist.

5. Raid an op shop or whatever you have to do to appear in a suit, tie and decent shoes. Be respectful in court. You'd be suprised what a difference the right attitude and a neat and contrite demeanour can make.

6. Tell your brother to grow the fuck up. And don't listen to the misoginistic mongoloids on this site. Belting girls is not on. Be the bigger person.

seriously TS this is by far the best advice anyone could give. especially the bolded part.
 
This kind of reminds me of the opening scene from "The Way of The Gun".

 
Marbig, any updates? Is your bro still locked up or did he get bailed out?

He got bailed out by his friends after five or six hours. It cost them like $5k so he's going to have to attend court.

He hasn't been sleeping well and is still upset over everything. I am trying to get him a lawyer now that Xmas has passed by but yeah...time to beg/work for that money.
 
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