North Carolina Admits to Suppressing Black Voters on Purpose

Of course they are scumbags, but don't turn it racial. The parties try to suppress each other and fuck with districts all the damned time. This is nothing new, are you young or something? It's been quite a while since any major party has been anything but scumbaggish.
Really so the Democrats in California for example are passing laws to make it harder for white evangelicals who are overwhelmingly Republicans to vote? So Democrats in Rhode Island are trying to pass laws to make it harder for whites over 70 to vote because they tend to vote Republican?

I'm shocked I didn't hear about this before! Tell me more!!!
 
Really so the Democrats in California for example are passing laws to make it harder for white evangelicals who are overwhelmingly Republicans to vote? So Democrats in Rhode Island are trying to pass laws to make it harder for whites over 70 to vote because they tend to vote Republican?

I'm shocked I didn't hear about this before! Tell me more!!!

You got me. The Democratic party doesn't do anything sneaky or underhanded. Pwned
 
The North Carolina GOP is perhaps the most corrupt group of politicians in the country. They pull every dirty trick they can to cling to power.
 
Really so the Democrats in California for example are passing laws to make it harder for white evangelicals who are overwhelmingly Republicans to vote? So Democrats in Rhode Island are trying to pass laws to make it harder for whites over 70 to vote because they tend to vote Republican?

I'm shocked I didn't hear about this before! Tell me more!!!
How could you make it harder for Republicans to vote? Remember they're not the repressed minority.
 
The North Carolina GOP is perhaps the most corrupt group of politicians in the country. They pull every dirty trick they can to cling to power.
It's just too bad that the people in this thread defending what North Carolina GOP are doing with voting rights haven't lifted a finger to find out about the other disguting North Carolina GOP shenanigans.
 
The North Carolina GOP is perhaps the most corrupt group of politicians in the country. They pull every dirty trick they can to cling to power.
I am a republican that lives in North Carolina. What are you basing this most corrupt group of politicians in the country claim on? Please elaborate.
 
You should be in church on Sunday, not voting.
Pretty sure those aren't mutually exclusive. In fact they're often align neatly; where I live the polling locations are churches.
They could have taken the more expensive route, sure. I applaud them for not throwing money away.
You applaud them for making it harder for people to exercise their right to vote? Why? Shouldn't we want more people voting so that the system represents more people? I understand concern over the disparity in voting policies but instead of reducing Sunday and early voting in Dem districts just increase it in the other ones so they're equal and you have as many people voting as possible.
 
Pretty sure those aren't mutually exclusive. In fact they're often align neatly; where I live the polling locations are churches.

You applaud them for making it harder for people to exercise their right to vote? Why? Shouldn't we want more people voting so that the system represents more people? I understand concern over the disparity in voting policies but instead of reducing Sunday and early voting in Dem districts just increase it in the other ones so they're equal and you have as many people voting as possible.
Don't be obtuse. I applaud anything that reduces the budget.

From September:
https://www.propublica.org/article/...s-early-voting-locations-by-almost-20-percent
ProPublica said:
In June, the North Carolina General Assembly passed legislation mandating that all early voting sites in the state remain open for uniform hours on weekdays from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., a move supporters argued would reduce confusion and ultimately make early voting easier and more accessible.

But with the start of early voting only weeks away, county election officials across the state — who previously had control over setting polling hours in their jurisdictions — say the new law has hamstrung their ability to best serve voters. Some officials in rural counties say they’ve had to shrink the number of early voting locations to accommodate the law’s longer hour requirements and stay within their budgets.

A ProPublica analysis of polling locations shows that North Carolina’s 2018 midterm election will have nearly 20 percent fewer early voting locations than there were in 2014. Nearly half of North Carolina’s 100 counties are shutting down polling places, in part because of the new law. Poorer rural counties, often strapped for resources to begin with, are having a particularly difficult time adjusting to the new requirement.


The closure of polling locations increases the time it takes for voters to travel to the polls, and it could result in lower turnout, making matters worse for a state already dealing with Hurricane Florence. Early voting in North Carolina begins on Oct. 17.

We interviewed more than two dozen county election officials across North Carolina. None said they were in favor of the new law, and none said they were contacted by state lawmakers for counsel on the legislation. Some referred to the policy as “overkill,” a waste of resources and an “unfunded mandate,” particularly burdensome for cash-strapped counties.


“We know our county. We know when most people go to vote early. The 12-hour, 7-a.m.-to-7-p.m. requirement just ties our hands when coming up with a catered approach that fits our county best,” said Steve Stone, the Republican chair of the Robeson County Board of Elections.

Republican state lawmakers, who championed the new law, argue that the consistency it provides will eliminate uncertainty among voters and expand early voting by increasing hours and allowing those who work full-time jobs to vote before or after work.

“The purpose of the uniformity is to make it easier and more convenient and more accessible for the voter to participate,” said David Lewis, a state representative who supported the bill. “I think that access to the polls, access to the ballots in a uniform fashion, is more important than poll worker or election worker convenience.”

Lewis says the law has led to an increase in the number of aggregate polling hours across the state. Indeed, polls for early voting will be open 49,696 hours in 2018, a substantial jump from the 25,887 hours offered in 2014, according to a preliminary analysis from the North Carolina State Board of Elections & Ethics Enforcement.

But according to Robert Stein, a professor of political science at Rice University, aggregate hours are not nearly as important a factor to voter access as the number of early voting locations offered by a county.

“There is a lot of good research to suggest that when it comes to having a positive effect on early voting turnout, the important things are not the hours of operation but the location of the polling place and the distance and travel time it takes a voter to get there,” Stein said.

For many counties, the trade-off for more polling hours is fewer early voting locations. Take Gaston County, near Charlotte. In 2014, the county opened one main polling place at 8 a.m. and three additional ones at 10 a.m. According to Adam Ragan, the county’s nonpartisan director of elections, there are very few voters in the county eager to cast ballots early in the morning. The county, therefore, typically maximizes its resources by staggering voting hours across multiple locations.

“In elections administration, we have what we consider ‘non-usable hours,’” Ragan explained. “There are some locations where people won’t come at 7 a.m. or 8 a.m. That’s why we’ve always opened our auxiliary sites at 10 a.m.”

The county originally planned to open five early voting locations, but with the new policy it can now only afford to operate three.

While county election officials from both parties have expressed near uniform discontent over the new requirements, state lawmakers were split along partisan lines on the measure, with support coming exclusively from GOP lawmakers.

“It will put a strain on local boards,” Democratic Rep. Marcia Morey said on the floor of the North Carolina House of Representatives. “We need local flexibility, not the strong arm of the state for political purposes to suppress the vote.”

North Carolina’s Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper originally vetoed the bill, writing in a statement that “we should be making it easier for people to vote, not harder,” but GOP state lawmakers have veto-proof majorities in both chambers of the General Assembly and handily overrode the veto.

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In addition to setting uniform polling hours, the original legislation also eliminated the final Saturday of early voting, a day that historically attracts a large number of black voters, opening legislators up to further charges of voter suppression.

Republican lawmakers subsequently backed off on this and restored the popular voting day. Lewis acknowledged the move was a mistake, though he said it had been proposed to give counties more time prepare for Election Day. Still, given the sordid history of voting rights violations in North Carolina, many Democrats remain skeptical of GOP lawmakers’ dedication to expanding access to early voting.

“I do not see it as an isolated event, but rather a part of a larger voter suppression effort,” said Al Daniels, a Democratic member of the Bladen County Board of Elections, of the uniform-hours law. “I see it as anti-voter, period.”

In 2013, the GOP-led General Assembly passed far-reaching legislation in the name of combating voter fraud that cut back on early voting, established a photo ID requirement and did away with pre-registration of high school students, same-day registration and out-of-precinct voting. A federal appeals court struck down the law, labeling it an unconstitutional attempt to “target African Americans with almost surgical precision.”

The 2013 law was passed in the wake of the Supreme Court decision in Shelby County v. Holder, which weakened a provision of the Voting Rights Act that had required a handful of jurisdictions — including parts of North Carolina — to submit voting law changes to the federal government to determine whether those changes had a discriminatory effect or purpose. Now, laws like North Carolina’s uniform-voting legislation don’t need to be given preclearance from the federal government before they can take effect.

“Given the context of the GOP legislature, it makes you want to raise your eyebrows that this just wasn’t some neutral requirement to have consistent voting hours around the state,” said Philip Lehman, the Democratic vice chair of Durham County’s Board of Elections and a former member of the state’s General Assembly.

Other arguments in favor of the law have only advanced suspicion of lawmakers’ motives. State Sen. Ralph Hise, one of a dozen Republican sponsors of the bill, said in an interview with ProPublica that the law was meant, in part, to rein in partisan maneuvering on county election boards. He said that, in previous elections, certain counties would strategically leave specific early voting sites open for longer to “impact the election.” When asked to provide an example of such conduct, during the interview and subsequently, however, Hise did not do so.

The new law came as a surprise to many local election officials who had already finalized their budgets. Elections in North Carolina, unlike some other states, are funded entirely at the county level, leaving some administrators scrambling to figure out how to work within the confines of their budgets while accommodating the new law.

“I’m a full-fledged Republican and a Republican supporter, and I’m just disappointed in the General Assembly for not reaching out to election officials in the state and asking, ‘What do you think would work well for this early voting law?’” said Stone, the chair of the Robeson County Board of Elections.

The law appears to have exacerbated the divide between urban and rural counties, putting a greater strain on poorer, less populous counties, which often have smaller budgets, fewer full-time employees and an older voting population that is less willing to volunteer for what could be a 12-hour poll worker shift.

Take Bladen County. When it approved its operating budget this year, election officials set aside funds for four early voting sites. Though sparsely populated, Bladen County is large — the state’s fourth biggest by area — and local election administrators wanted to provide ample access to voters across the region.

Their plan had precedent. In every statewide election over the past decade, Bladen voters could cast their ballots at one of four early voting locations spread out across the county. Now, with the strict hours requirement, Bladen County can only afford to staff and operate one early voting site.

“We’re a small county and the law has affected us pretty badly,” said Bobby Ludlum, the GOP chair of Bladen County’s Board of Elections.

Wealthier, more populous counties appear to be doing better at weathering the changes. Still, election officials acknowledged that the law may adversely affect their rural counterparts.

“One size does not necessarily fit all,” said Michael Dickerson, the nonpartisan director of elections in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina’s most populous. “I’m very fortunate in this county. I’ve got over a million people living here, so we can find poll workers.”

The legislation has contributed to an already chaotic and uncertain year for election administrators in North Carolina. In addition to the difficulties they will encounter getting elections up and running in a state dealing with a major natural disaster, election officials are still scrambling to deal with man-made crises. A federal court in late August ruled that the state’s congressional maps were unconstitutionally gerrymandered and ordered they be redrawn immediately, sparking widespread confusion among election officials on whether the general election would move forward as planned. The court later clarified that the current maps should be used for the coming election.

A separate series of court battles over ballot language delayed the preparation and printing of election ballots, and the reduced timeline has left little flexibility in case ballots need to be reprinted. Adding to all of this, federal prosecutors in early September issued subpoenas to 44 county election boards asking that millions of voter records be handed over to immigration authorities by the end of the month.

While North Carolina has a handful of consequential congressional races in this fall’s election — the Cook Political Report rates four as competitive — most officials who spoke to ProPublica worry about how the early-voting changes and other laws might affect 2020, when the swing state will vote for president, governor and senator.

“It seems that every time we have an election, the rules are different,” said Jake Quinn, a Democratic member of the Buncombe County Board of Elections.

“We’re looking at different district boundaries, or we have to have voter IDs, or you can’t vote out of precinct, or the hours have to be changed. This is a problem. When you change the rules for voting every single election, some people are going to get discouraged by that,” he said. “All of this is very destabilizing.”]
All that nuance got lost in the OP, didn't it? Outlets like the WaPo and Vox are too busy putting "racist" in their headlines to separate the strategic effects from its cause. Rural counties tend to be more conservative in most states.

Ironic how Democrats suddenly oppose stronger, centralized regulation when the governing central body is controlled by Republicans, isn't it?
 
Don't be obtuse. I applaud anything that reduces the budget.

From September:
https://www.propublica.org/article/...s-early-voting-locations-by-almost-20-percent

All that nuance got lost in the OP, didn't it? Outlets like the WaPo and Vox are too busy putting "racist" in their headlines to separate the strategic effects from its cause. Rural counties tend to be more conservative in most states.

Ironic how Democrats suddenly oppose stronger, centralized regulation when the governing central body is controlled by Republicans, isn't it?
Not sure what your point is. Your own link says this
While county election officials from both parties have expressed near uniform discontent over the new requirements, state lawmakers were split along partisan lines on the measure, with support coming exclusively from GOP lawmakers.

“It will put a strain on local boards,” Democratic Rep. Marcia Morey said on the floor of the North Carolina House of Representatives. “We need local flexibility, not the strong arm of the state for political purposes to suppress the vote.”
its the GOP lawmakers supporting it despite the strain it puts on the budget for polling which leads to fewer locations come election time. How is that good in anyway?
 
Stupid thread and non existence of a topic but continue with the “ we must find racism hunt”
 
Not sure what your point is. Your own link says this

its the GOP lawmakers supporting it despite the strain it puts on the budget for polling which leads to fewer locations come election time. How is that good in anyway?
Because my response there was to the notion that they needed to broaden polling and hours in the specific counties which they are supposedly "discriminating against" with "racist" laws (as the liberal media is reporting it). TS didn't even research how this worked. He just searched the PDF for buzzwords.

They passed a regulation to normalize voting hours across the state, implementing greater early hours voting, which strains rural areas the most, and this is construed as a "racist" policy which somehow stifles early voting. I'm separating cause from effect. You can't blame a law for "racism" which treats all races equally simply because it is wise to the effect.
 
North Carolina's position appeared to be that Sunday voting was only open in counties that were disproportionately black and Democratic. That's why they closed down Sunday voting: to restore parity. Alternatively, they could have opened Sunday voting in counties that are more Republican/white, but I imagine that would have cost the state money while closing down more centers spares them budget hunting.

You've immediately jumped to the conclusion they discriminated against blacks when it appears they were actually attempting to prevent an uneven vote.
Sorry to jump into this but you might want to look up some of the recent court rulings as the Repub's keep getting nailed on this over and over.

I challenge you to watch these below and not think they are trying to suppress minority votes time and again and with every tactic in the book.





 
Republicans trying to prevent Black people from voting..
But ....but... I though the Dems were the real racists and the party of the KKK.

Not like this is the first instance of such behavior. The whole I.D. requirement in North Carolina was designed to disenfranchise especially Black and Hispanic voters.
 
I live in North Carolina and I vote nearly every election and I can assure you that African-Americans vote every other day too. Shutting down the Sunday vote in no way hinders blacks from voting.

You sound like you live in NC.
 
I am a republican that lives in North Carolina. What are you basing this most corrupt group of politicians in the country claim on? Please elaborate.
Off the top of my head since 2016 they've used gerrymandered district maps to maintain a supermajority in the state legislature that they wouldn't be able to maintain otherwise, they voted to strip Roy Cooper of as much power as they could before he even took office because they were sore over losing the gubernatorial election, they threatened to impeach the democratically elected justices of the state supreme court for ruling against them, and they've been attempting to take away the power of the governor to fill judicial vacancies and appoint members of state boards and commissions. Because they lost the supreme court and the governorship in democratic elections they've tried to strip them of as much power as they can thus upsetting the checks and balances of the state government.
 
Sorry to jump into this but you might want to look up some of the recent court rulings as the Repub's keep getting nailed on this over and over.

I challenge you to watch these below and not think they are trying to suppress minority votes time and again and with every tactic in the book.






@Madmick I would sincerely like your comment on this if you have the time to review them as I often think many of our views are aligned (I consider myself a centre right conservative, favoring minimal gov't and who is not a fan of Trump as a person).

I am curious if you see any merit whatsoever that ethnicity targeting is being done by the Repub's here since you seem to be (to me) pretty reflexively against this entire notion.
 
I am a republican that lives in North Carolina. What are you basing this most corrupt group of politicians in the country claim on? Please elaborate.
This story, I'd bet.
 
I’m really surprised MODs are cool with this kind of thread making.

The Title really is misleading at best. You read the thread title and then the story and it’s quite clear TS tried to mislead readers

It’s kind of pathetic
 
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