Nope, Oliveira would get KOed by Dustin

[drbolony]

People are high on Chuck for the finishes. I'm not even sure he beats Dariush.

 

[Roop Holstry]

Aloe Vera will almost definitely be able to take down Dustin. His takedowns have been underrated for a long time and Dustins TDD isn’t great. It’s an amazing matchup that can go either way

 

[CutStryker]

Fact: Before the Khabib fight, Dustin has only been taken down 3 times in his LW career.

Of course Oliveira is an all-rounder, a specialist in bjj but Dustin is a black belt in bjj too almost subbing Khabib in a Guillotine Choke when they fought. This is a weakness in Oliveira, he lost 2 matches via guillotine earlier in his career. Im not saying Oliveira didnt improve since his last losses, but if it ever goes to the ground (which is hard considering Dustin's TDD is good) Dustin would not be easy pickings.

Dustin is too sharp for Oliveira on the feet. Hes the best boxer in the UFC right now. KOed Conor, Gaethje, and dominated in striking exchanges against Holloway.

I dont understand how people are saying Oliveira would ragdoll Poirier. Yes khabib made it look easy, but Oliveira is no Khabib. His takedown weapons are not as advanced as khabib. Tony's terrible TDD only made Oliveira look good.

Chandler rocked him terribly in the 1st round. Poirier would KO him

Pfff, LOL. I mean it’s possible, don’t get me wrong. Charles is on another level.

I’d take this bet

 

[Ryoto Machida]

Go ahead and keep sleeping on Do Bronx. It's worked out great for you over the past couple years.

 

[snugglecakes]

Fact: Before the Khabib fight, Dustin has only been taken down 3 times in his LW career

Colby revealed to us that Dustin gets taken down by high school level wrestlers all damn day long and we have every reason to believe that is the truth n nothings has changed.

He hasn’t been taken down much in mma simply because he’s generally fighting other strikers in his mma fights. We have absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Dustin has improved his wrestling in any way shape or form. Taking down Conor does not indicate a wrestling improvement whatsoever. Even Your grandma would ragdoll Conor down. It proves and means nothing.

If Dustin stuff’s charley Bronx takedowns with ease it doesn’t indicate a wrestling improvement either because well .. charley bronx is not a wrestler and bjj takedowns are garbo

 

[balkanbomber85]

LW is the UFCs kickboxing division, thats the only reason why Dustin has not been taken down many times, same with Justin as well. However, whenever anybody tried to take him down they succeeded quite easily…

so, I guess Charly has a great shot and its mainly some retired fighters crazy fanbase which prays every damn day that Justin and Dustin run through the entire division just to be able to claim that their boy is goat material because he beat them.

 

[HelloJapan]

Yes, it's possible. But you don't have to do a traditional TD to get a sub, these can happen in transitions, clinches, exchanges, etc (think Ortega vs Cub, or Covington vs Alves). Charles is very good at being creative with his subs (and transitioning into them). Even Dustin pointed out in a recent interview that he'll have to set up his BJJ, in preparation for Do Bronx.

 

[NGute87]

What? dude, KZ alone took him down 4 times, Castillo took him down 3 times, swanson took him down 2 times, Grispi, Brandao, Miller, Pettis, alvarez all took him down. Dustin's very average TDD has been apparent well before he fought Khabib.

I think he means ufc lw only, but I still don't know how accurate that is.

 

[FlowchartRog]

Yeah, I mean Charles has looked great and all, and I was very happy for him to become champ - but I absolutely expect Poirier to blast him out in a round or two. Would be kind of shocked if he didn't, tbh.

 

[fortheo]

People are high on Chuck for the finishes. I'm not even sure he beats Dariush.

I'm not sure Dustin beats dariush either. Dariush is very underated by sherdoggers.

 

[Deleted member 545701]

Right now I feel like Oliveira has the advantage. Maybe like 55-45. But I'm sure as the fight gets closer it'll go back to 50-50.

Charles needs to pressure him, teep kick to the chest and face, strike when necessary, and ultimately try to replicate the Ferguson fight. Poirier is probably the best boxer at 155lbs right now. It's a really good fight. I just favor Charles right now due to the wrestling offense and submissions.

I think Charles really had that first big fight feel against Chandler, so now that he pushed through it, he'll be far more comfortable against Poirier.

 

[ryun253]

Poiriers been in wars, never know when that chin can go.

 

[YungSithLxrd]

I think Dustin wins although I HOPE Charles win. But Dustin's Black belt is about as useful as cub Swansons. First off Dustin fights pretty much all strikers at LW aside from CDf who primarily strikes anyway. And khabib. The only grappling prowess he has really shown. Was subbing Max like 10 years ago, when he fought Eddie as soon as Eddie started grappling Dustin was in trouble in both fights. I don't think Dustin's BJJ will make any difference if he truly gets put in a bad grappling position.

 

[Poirierfan]

Oliveira round 3 sub . Dustin is a volume puncher I don't see that type of fighter beating Oliveira right now. Also the Chucky Olives that lost by sub is basically irrelevant to this conversation. Oliveiras high guard muay Thai stance and long kicks will do him well in the stand up against Dustin's Orthodox boxing as well.

To say Dustin is just a volume puncher is incorrect, he's one of the rare fighters that has both volume and power. He's gonna be too much for Charles standing, especially later in the fight.

 

[Cameron]

true, I keep thinking about Felder crushing Charles with elbows all those years ago. I don't think it'd be a blow out, but I'm leaning Dustin as well

I don't think it would be a blow out either. But I could see him winning until he gets caught

 

[Morning Star]

I don't count Charles out anymore, even though I would favor Dustin. I don't see this as being as an open and shut case like most people on here.

 

[Argonaut]

Fact: Before the Khabib fight, Dustin has only been taken down 3 times in his LW career.

Of course Oliveira is an all-rounder, a specialist in bjj but Dustin is a black belt in bjj too almost subbing Khabib in a Guillotine Choke when they fought. This is a weakness in Oliveira, he lost 2 matches via guillotine earlier in his career. Im not saying Oliveira didnt improve since his last losses, but if it ever goes to the ground (which is hard considering Dustin's TDD is good) Dustin would not be easy pickings.

Dustin is too sharp for Oliveira on the feet. Hes the best boxer in the UFC right now. KOed Conor, Gaethje, and dominated in striking exchanges against Holloway.

I dont understand how people are saying Oliveira would ragdoll Poirier. Yes khabib made it look easy, but Oliveira is no Khabib. His takedown weapons are not as advanced as khabib. Tony's terrible TDD only made Oliveira look good.

Chandler rocked him terribly in the 1st round. Poirier would KO him

How much money have you put down on Dustin?

 

[laleggenda27]

I'll be rooting for Oliveira, but I have Poirier as the favorite. I suspect that the Oliveira-Chandler fight was a bit misleading; two glass cannons competing to see which one would shatter first. I think Oliveira would have folded as he's done in the past if Chandler let him stand back up rather than inexplicably grappling for the rest of the round.

Even if Oliveira finds success with the takedowns, Poirier is more than competent enough to survive on the ground. There certainly are paths to victory for Oliveira, but it seems to me the most likely outcome is Poirier winning by TKO by virtue of being a more durable and powerful striker.

 

[YungSithLxrd]

To say Dustin is just a volume puncher is incorrect, he's one of the rare fighters that has both volume and power. He's gonna be too much for Charles standing, especially later in the fight.

He is a volume puncher with some power key word tho SOME power. He can hurt you but he's not a heavy hitter. He landed a full force flush counter on gaethke and couldn't knock him down. Same with Alvarezbwho he hitblike 100 times and the fight ended with Eddie still standing upright and featherweight max Holloway. He has JUST ENOUGH power. Same with Gaethje. But I think Dustin hits harder than gaethje does. Gaethje throws his full body into shots and still cant knock dudes over or flatline them.

 

[Rdude92]

Go ahead and keep sleeping on Do Bronx. It's worked out great for you over the past couple years.

Do Bronk has a glass chin. Some said here that Poirier is a volume striker...well not against a jaw like Charles'. Against a jaw like his, any punch is a bomb