Economy Noam Chomsky- Requiem for the American Dream

[J_C]

I realize Noam will be a polarizing and controversial figure here in the War Room. Though I doubt many of his vocal critics have read more than a few of his 150 or so books. I re-watched Requiem for the American Dream for the first time in a while last night, and I am interested in the thoughts of my fellow war-roomers who have actually watched it. Especially from the right.

It's over an hour long. Even if you are not a fan, I would suggest watching it if you have not already.



After watching it again, I can't help but think that big business just LOVES the idea of Americans bickering with one another over their political ideologies as opposed to looking at their actions, and that of the government they have bought (BOTH sides of the aisle) critically and objectively. I also think they must be shitting in their pants to see so many workers quitting their jobs, even in these divisive times.

So have a watch and let me know what you think!!

i think chomsky is largely correct in his analysis and the BLM/race wars, vaxxed vs. unvaxxed, transtarded stuff are prime examples of the divide and conquer of the cathedral

 

[Papi Chulo]

Noam Chomsky believes that people who don't take the experimental covid vaccine should be isolated.

He's perpetuating things that are based on lies. Getting the vaccine does not keep you from getting covid or spreading covid

I do not support him in this

 

[J_C]

Yeah not big on drastic predictions, but things are gonna get worse before they get better. The hope I have is still very clear, the people who are behind the scenes are way too arrogant and think they are smarter than they actually are. Living on a bed made of money and silk has made them soft. A reckoning is not off the menu yet

frig man, hope you are right, a lot of good people out there fighting tooth and nail

 

[J_C]

Noam Chomsky believes that people who don't take the experimental covid vaccine should be isolated.

I do not support him in this

disappointing for sure, but hes 90 whatever and i dont think he has the gumption to fight like he used to

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

To be fair, I was only celebrating the death of one particular unvaxxed American. And that was because he celebrated the deaths of aids victims, publicly, on his radio show, by reading their names out while 'Another one Bites the Dust' from Queen played. If that makes me a warped douche-bag, I'll own it.

Whenever you celebrate the death of another person, you give up a tiny bit of your own humanity. You don't have to mourn every death, but to celebrate another person dying is surrendering a small bit of your own humanity.

I think it was C.S. Lewis that said:

"I'll celebrate the death of no man, because I'm a part of mankind, so in some way, I too am diminished by their passing."

Even the deaths of truly awful people in some way diminishes us all if they didn't see the errors of their ways in life.

 

[Papi Chulo]

disappointing for sure, but hes 90 whatever and i dont think he has the gumption to fight like he used to

Too many people on the Left like Chomsky have bought into the lies and they keep repeating the lies about the vaccine.

 

[J_C]

Too many people on the Left like Chomsky have bought into the lies.

totally agree, quite disappointing. i prefer the tom petty method of going down swinging. will be a bit of a black mark on his legacy.

EDIT: who know what chomsky actual motives are. one on hand biggest and maybe best critic of US foreign policy, on the other he's a genius; hard to say if he is really a straight shooter or what his actual agenda is

 

[terrapin]

hedges is solid. but i hear he's in the shitter from both sides, which is quite the accomplishment. i loved his stuff. war is a force that gives us meaning is among my favorite books.

if you tell the truth about every issue both sides will hate you. its why i have no tribe on this site even. im hated by the left and the right because i call out bs equally on both sides.

haven't read the war book from hedges but just recently read a few by him two of which were american fascism and american psychosis. both are powerful books. just reread manufacturing consent by chomsky recently also and damn that is a powerful book.

 

[terrapin]

disappointing for sure, but hes 90 whatever and i dont think he has the gumption to fight like he used to

he believes people should take the vaccine based on the data. it is disingenuous to pretend that he thinks that because he is old. his position on this topic is consistent with his whole body of thought and is data driven-- dont pretend otherwise. he thinks anti vaccine people exist because of the polarization and mistrust and the degradation of education in this country.

he sees the right's anti science positions as being a symptom of the underlying problems in this country that are the result primarily of greed and concentration of wealth at the top. dont act like he is just getting old here.

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

Are you only allowed to be a critic if you've read 150 of his books?

 

[cooks1]

they ain't worried a bit about people quitting their jobs. It's part of the destabilization plan.

It's not like they are quitting to sit on their ass. They are quitting for better opportunities. The unemployment rate is under 5%

 

[J_C]

he believes people should take the vaccine based on the data. it is disingenuous to pretend that he thinks that because he is old. his position on this topic is consistent with his whole body of thought and is data driven-- dont pretend otherwise. he thinks anti vaccine people exist because of the polarization and mistrust and the degradation of education in this country.

he sees the right's anti science positions as being a symptom of the underlying problems in this country that are the result primarily of greed and concentration of wealth at the top. dont act like he is just getting old here.

consistent to isolate ppl based on their vax status? governments should use coercion on the plebs into taking experimental "vaccines" that pharma pays millions to politicians to support?

 

[SKYNET]

It's not like they are quitting to sit on their ass. They are quitting for better opportunities. The unemployment rate is under 5%

Quitting gives the corporations power. Middle and lower classes are playing chicken with Corporations and are doing so with almost no leverage. As long as citizens fall back on the novelty of free and fair elections, the politicians that are placed in Washington by the voters will always know which side the bread is buttered on

 

[cooks1]

disappointing for sure, but hes 90 whatever and i dont think he has the gumption to fight like he used to

Yeah. I don't agree with Noam on that one.

 

[terrapin]

consistent to isolate ppl based on their vax status? governments should use coercion into taking experimental "vaccines" that pharma pays millions to politicians to support?

you can disagree with his position all you want. im not arguing against that at all. just dont pretend that he only thinks that because he is old and has no gumption. his position is data driven and would be no different were he 30 years old.

he was asked about the vaccine issue and why he supports big pharma and has given a nuanced response but ill sum it up. "you have got to be an idiot to think that big pharma is always lying or that a person supports big pharma when they take medication"

 

[Papi Chulo]

you can disagree with his position all you want. im not arguing agasint that at all. just dont pretend that he only thinks that because he is old and has no gumptoin. his position is data driven and would be no different were he 30 years old.

he was asked about the vaccine issue and why he supports big pharma and has given a nuanced response but ill sum it up. "you have got to be an idiot to think that big pharma is always lying or that a person supports big pharma when they take medication"

Noam's position on the vaccine is not data driven.

He's perpetuating the lie that the vaccine keeps people from transmitting covid to others and therefore the unvaccinated need to be islolated in society. He's buying into the Big Pharma corporate lies. And repeating the lies.

 

[terrapin]

Noam's position on the vaccine is not data driven.

He's perpetuating the lie that the vaccine keeps people from transmitting covid to others and therefore the unvaccinated need to be islolated in society. He's buying into the Big Pharma corporate lies.

lol

 

[Simple Southerner]

Noam Chomsky is a bright thinker. but I'm afraid these actions and topics may lead eventually to a revolution especially in US LOL

all & all
Its Cliché Left-wing Marxist propaganda.

 

[Simple Southerner]

Noam Chomsky describes himself as an anarcho-syndicalist and libertarian socialist.

 

[cooks1]

Quitting gives the corporations power. Middle and lower classes are playing chicken with Corporations and are doing so with almost no leverage. As long as citizens fall back on the novelty of free and fair elections, the politicians that are placed in Washington by the voters will always know which side the bread is buttered on

We can certainly agree that whoever ends up in office is likely bought regardless of party. Elections are just too expensive now. But I don't agree with the rest of that assessment. And I think it runs counter to one of 'the right' sides favorite quips- 'If you don't like it- Quit'. That's exactly what people are doing.

I know everyone loves to bash the young here. Raised in a nerfed up world. Less disciplined, more spoiled, less of a work ethic and so on. And I expect a fair bit of that is deserved. But they are a lot more willing than previous generations to depart from their parents value systems, ideologies, and lifestyle choices. They can also communicate more easily with each other much more easily than previous generations.