No one convinces me Liddel wasn't a better fighter than Shogun prime for prime

[Wilmer Digreux]

and he was bacically facing jiu-jitsu guys who couldn't take down a fly

Tbf flies are hard as shit to double leg

 

[SalvadorAllende]

You realize Shogun beat Ricardo Arona right? Who is also just as good of a wrestler as the guys you mentioned and is a better grappler.

You're talking like Shogun can't beat lay and pray when he beat the best LnP fighter of their era.

Dude.. where is Ricardo Arona?

 

[chinarice]

And Babalu smoked Shogun and Chuck embarassed Babalu

Can do this all day.

In a thread talking about prime vs prime, you're bringing up a fight when he was 22 years old and in his 5th MMA fight...

I am not sure you can do this all day sir.

 

[HHJ]

You can just stick to one chuck Liddell thread

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Dude.. where is Ricardo Arona?

getting laid

 

[Goatenstein]

Iirc Rampage said he was compromised going into that fight, I think he was hurt but he was pressured into taking the fight, that's why he regrets it, because he wasn't ready.

Excuses still being made after almost 20 years

 

[Doctor Grudge]

And Babalu smoked Shogun and Chuck embarassed Babalu

Can do this all day.

Shogun literally knocked Chuck out....

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Excuses still being made after almost 20 years

Page is a bullshitter.

BTW.. this thread is stupid. TS literally puts "no on convinces me.." and open a thread to discuss about that.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

In a thread talking about prime vs prime, you're bringing up a fight when he was 22 years old and in his 5th MMA fight...

I am not sure you can do this all day sir.

Chuck lost to Jeremy Horn by submission in his third fight. Obviously he's a jabaroni.

 

[KO Shotz]

Both vicious strikers with two very different styles. End of story.

 

[Follow99]

After GSP won the Goat poll nothing surprises me anymore

Bad call, Shogun rules

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

I don’t think evangelista cyborg has a shot in hell against Chuck, but he made shogun panic wrestle

 

[markantony20]

After GSP won the Goat poll nothing surprises me anymore

Bad call, Shogun rules

Don’t hate the GOAT baby

 

[daPROFESSOR]

Chuck and Shogun fought. I got a dui that night.

 

[josh345]

I'll take the guy who won the pride GP and was able to beat prime machida for the belt.

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

No one convinces me..

Liddell had a way better wrestling (way more difficult to wreslters guys)
Better reach
Better punch
Same level striking (Liddel was better with the hands and Shogun better in clinch/knee)

Shogun was better on ground, gnp and using Pride's rules.

So making a thread about it makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

So even if Rua was taken down, it's not like he'd get submitted by Chuck Liddell (or Randy/Tito).

Randy would anaconda choke the shit out of Shotgun

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

It's hard to admit, but Pride's savagery is obsolete, while Liddell and Randy Era were a presage of what modern MMA would become.

That's true overall. Might be why fans like having someone like Perreira around in modern ufc. There's some parallels between Perreira and Shoguns careers.


I just wish Perreira would quit the voodoo

 

[AstralPanda]

Dude.. where is Ricardo Arona?

still on the beaches of Brazil

Pullin dime pieces on the daily

Arona bless

 

[muaythaibeast]

Chuck was the Mousasi of his day. Very good, comfortably dealt with the competition in a 2nd tier organisation, but would have had major problems against the best in the world.