No military in the world could occupy the United States

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No military in the world, including the United States military, could occupy the United States of America.

I get really tired of seeing the argument repeated over and over, on news talk shows, political comedy shows, in here in the warroom, that drones, war ships, and military technology would easily defeat a populace armed with rifles.

If the debate is whether 3 million people armed with rifles could defeat a professional fighting force on a open battlefield, I fully concede that any professional fighting force would destroy an armed populace.

Anyone who thinks this is the debate, is very misinformed.

The United States of America is 3,000 miles coast to coast of every fighting terrain known to man. Deserts, mountains, rain forrests, ect.

We have a population of over 320,000,000 people.

To occupy the US, you would need an army of atleast 3,000,000 troops, due to the size of the population and geographical area. That would be less than 1% the size of the US population.

China has the largest standing army at 2,100,000.

You then need to supply 3,000,000 troops in a geographical area of over 3,100,000 square miles.

That is a logistical nightmare. This creates literally 100's of thousands of soft targets, where no air support exists, where their is not enough heavy armored vehicles in the world to station at each soft target. Fuel depots, ammo depots, equipment storage. Every occupying soldier is a soft target. A resisting force could literally create an ambush for a single soldier.

Every destruction of a soft target, is a battle won, in a war of attrition.

An armed populace does not need to defeat a occupying army, it only needs to resist it. It needs to bleed that occupying force with a death of a thousand cuts.

I think a 3,000,000 man army would be far too few. You would really need 10,000,000-30,000,000 to have enough to effectively provide security.

Not even the deepest pockets in the world combined, which is the European, and American central banks, could sustain that effort for long.

As I stated in the thread title. No military in the world could occupy the United States of America, and having an armed populace is key to ensuring that statement remains true.
 
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>loses to vietnamese farmers with sticks
>cant beat middle-eastern farmers with stones
>thinks they stand a chance against real men and real armies

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Who cares?

No military in the world could occupy China or Russia either.

The Chinese and Russian militaries could.

Russia has 7 million privately owned weapons for 142 million citizens.

Someone would have to start funneling weapons into the country to arm the populace.

China? Lol, they would willfully submit.
 
Couldn't beat Afghanistan or Vietnam, but can beat a nation of their own family, which is 10 times larger than both of them combined, and way better equipped?

The U.S. military is amazing, and the best the world has ever seen. But there's a difference between conquering and destroying.

If they wanted, the military could indeed lay waste to the homeland, and leave it in ruins...

But could they conquer their own people? Absolutely not. The resistance would never end.
 
Well, yeah....

Was someone insisting otherwise or something?
 
The Wehrmacht had a total of 13 Million soldiers in WW2. And almost 1 million in the Waffen SS. God knows how much the Russian had.
You wouldn't beat the US by occupying all that territory but rather do a Blitz to DC and NY (assuming you attack from Mexico).
The SS would handle all the revolting civilians. If the GESTAPO comes knocking on your door to ship you off to a concentration camp you think twice about revolting.

Not that difficult on paper if the US wouldn't have an excellent military themselves.
But the US was able to develop so well over the last 150 years because they are the main power in their region.
If they would have a Russia, France or German on their borders they wouldn't have been able to instigate all the wars on the sideline until an entry would mean certain victory.
 
The Wehrmacht had a total of 13 Million soldiers in WW2. And almost 1 million in the Waffen SS. God knows how much the Russian had.
You wouldn't beat the US by occupying all that territory but rather do a Blitz to DC and NY (assuming you attack from Mexico).
The SS would handle all the revolting civilians. If the GESTAPO comes knocking on your door to ship you off to a concentration camp you think twice about revolting.

Not that difficult on paper if the US wouldn't have an excellent military themselves.
But the US was able to develop so well over the last 150 years because they are the main power in their region.
If they would have a Russia, France or German on their borders they wouldn't have been able to instigate all the wars on the sideline until an entry would mean certain victory.


So what you're saying is we need to get Mexico off our border?

Perhaps a wall, or make it a state? We can call it "New new mexico".
 
The Wehrmacht had a total of 13 Million soldiers in WW2. And almost 1 million in the Waffen SS. God knows how much the Russian had.
You wouldn't beat the US by occupying all that territory but rather do a Blitz to DC and NY (assuming you attack from Mexico).
The SS would handle all the revolting civilians. If the GESTAPO comes knocking on your door to ship you off to a concentration camp you think twice about revolting.

Not that difficult on paper if the US wouldn't have an excellent military themselves.
But the US was able to develop so well over the last 150 years because they are the main power in their region.
If they would have a Russia, France or German on their borders they wouldn't have been able to instigate all the wars on the sideline until an entry would mean certain victory.

Blitz tactics are great for defeating governments and armies.

I will eat your supply lines for breakfast as a resisting force.
 
Since Wolverines has been used...what animal should we, the resistance, use as our battle cry and mascot ?
 
The Chinese and Russian militaries could.

Russia has 7 million privately owned weapons for 142 million citizens.

Someone would have to start funneling weapons into the country to arm the populace.

China? Lol, they would willfully submit.

Oh.

We're pretending Russia and China wouldn't use their nuclear arsenals to defend themselves against an invasion.


How cute.
 
Oh.

We're pretending Russia and China wouldn't use their nuclear arsenals to defend themselves against an invasion.


How cute.

You misunderstood. I was talking about How the Russian military, could occupy Russia against the will of the people.
 
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