No man will hold the UFC HW title for long

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Mad Jitsu, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Mad Jitsu

    Mad Jitsu Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    522
    Likes Received:
    10
    Remember when Brock Lesnar was thought to be invincible, and then when Cain beat him, he was going to dominate the HW division for years?

    JDS is a great fighter, and I favor him against Cain, but with Cain, Overeem, Cormier, and JDS in the HW division no man will be able to defeat all the rest. Heavyweights are too powerful and there are too many KO's. Things will get even more competitive once Jon Jones moves up.

    Fedor was a great fighter, but he wouldn't have gone undefeated against Lesnar, Couture, Overeem, and Mir. Prime Fedor couldn't go undefeated against the best HW in the UFC right now; no man can.

    Now fanboys will say that their favorite fighter is invincible and will dominate all the others, but these guys are just too good to get dominated by any one man.
     
  2. LSXMMA

    LSXMMA I posty..I sleepy..I eaty

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2008
    Messages:
    5,167
    Likes Received:
    403
    Location:
    Indiana
    No?
     
  3. McDego

    McDego Green Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Messages:
    980
    Likes Received:
    201
    JDS has the best shot out of all of them imo.

    I think he'll hold the title for a while.
     
  4. Malbec

    Malbec Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2012
    Messages:
    842
    Likes Received:
    27
    Anderson, GSP, Jones, and JDS. I don't see them losing any time soon. Bendo, maybe. Maybe. The other four look locked in. Especially if JDS smashed Cain again.
     
  5. King Crab

    King Crab Green Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Messages:
    958
    Likes Received:
    249
    Prime Fedor was a fucking beast and none of the fighters you list are in the same league as he was. Fedor would have either submitted Cain or or blasted him into submission.
     
  6. LilNubi

    LilNubi Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2009
    Messages:
    4,355
    Likes Received:
    724
    Location:
    Chewing Bubblegum
    Dear Sir,
    I can only assume you are some sort of Wizard with a crystal ball in order to make such a statement as this. So tell us, are you a Wizard with a crystal ball?

    [​IMG]
     
  7. mmagoat

    mmagoat Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Messages:
    4,830
    Likes Received:
    0
    A champion needs to prove his dominance for at least 3 defenses before I make such statements. Keeping the title is much more difficult than earning it because you have to fight top hungry competitors vast majority of the time.
     
  8. MG1215**

    MG1215** Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2010
    Messages:
    2,273
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hes probably going to tie the defense record this weekend. Then overeem will upset him, then lose to cormier. Then a huge cycle will just continue where no one defends more than twice.
     
  9. TFanatic

    TFanatic Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2011
    Messages:
    10,898
    Likes Received:
    348
    It's poor logic to say that because it hasn't been done, it won't be done.

    JDS has the best chance I think. 9 straight wins in the UFC without looking in trouble once. He has some stiff challenges in front of him to be sure, but he would be the favorite in every one of them, so it's very doable.
     
  10. sgtlunajuice

    sgtlunajuice Green Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2006
    Messages:
    1,333
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Sector 2814
    pretty much this
     
  11. GordaoPreguico

    GordaoPreguico Red Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,787
    Likes Received:
    5,124
    Remember when they said that no one would hold on to the LHW belt because it was passed around so much? One man stopped that.
     
  12. Doran

    Doran Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    1,756
    Likes Received:
    65
    Depends, I think JDS will hold it for a while if he beats Cain cause I think he beats Overeem but if Cain wins I could see Overeem knocking him out.
     
  13. mmagoat

    mmagoat Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Messages:
    4,830
    Likes Received:
    0
    Fedor was fighting in a different MMA. A smaller ring where you can cut off the opponent and cannot hold anyone against the ropes for a long time represents a very different type of fighting. It makes no sense to compare his skills directly against someone who mostly have fought in the octagon.

    But Fedor had skills to KO a fighter, dominate them from the top position or submit them from the bottom. Nobody in the UFC currently can do this against top opponents.
     
  14. KeBrWa

    KeBrWa White Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2012
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    It is possible that we have rock/paper/scissors scenario with so many specialists leading the division but JDS is 2 fights away from establishing himself as a fixture. If cain can't get him down and Overeem can't outstrike him he becomes the overwhelming favorite against anyone at HW.
     
  15. Doran

    Doran Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    1,756
    Likes Received:
    65
    I dont think hes comparing skill as much as he is saying Fedor's long ass winning streak was greatly helped by the mis matches in between all of his legit fights. It would be much harder to go undefeated if your constantly fighting top guys.

    Fedor is still the heavy weight goat, just might have had a couple more losses had he fought more, and fought more consistent competition.
     
  16. Danas Mom**

    Danas Mom** White Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2012
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    JDS will savage anyone on this planet in the octagon. Wait til you see what happens to poor cain. Junior will severely hurt Cain tom night and they Reem might be 205lbs again by the time he wakes up.
     
  17. TFanatic

    TFanatic Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2011
    Messages:
    10,898
    Likes Received:
    348
    haha. I agree.
     
  18. Hanri

    Hanri Black Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2011
    Messages:
    7,030
    Likes Received:
    638
    Well HW is the hardest division to stay on top-
     
  19. mmagoat

    mmagoat Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Messages:
    4,830
    Likes Received:
    0
    Fedor was also fighting more frequently until the last few years of his career.

    Jones is now fighting middleweights but I do not see a problem with that as long as he is fighting to LHW contenders 2x a year.
     
  20. ShogunTBone

    ShogunTBone Ode to No One

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,253
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    King of the Coast
    I don't see JDS losing to anyone in the near future. Also,

     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.