For people that are familiar with these two places: Which of these two gyms would you recommend? A friend of mine and his girlfriend want to join a gym, but start out easy. They want to do either the Cardio Kickboxing at No Limits (the Muay Thai program requires previous experience and it's a competition program) or the Kickboxing and Phase 1 (JKD) program at OC Kickboxing. My friend wants to eventually do BJJ, and they both have ok instructors. Have any of your Sherdogger's trained at any of the two gyms? What are your experiences there? What would you recommend? What are the differences in terms of what you learn and so forth? My personal impression has been that OC Kickboxing is a bit of a "tamer" (for lack of a better word) but better organized, while No Limits might be more "hardcore" but with less organization to the classes and instruction. Am I wrong? Please feel free to correct me. Which is a good beginner's gym that allows for well organized future development?