Ninjitsu death punch?

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  1. Spyderz20x6

    Spyderz20x6 White Belt

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    I was watching this documentary on Nat Geo called Fight Science, and they were talking about a cluster of nerves or something in your chest, that if a person hits with the right force and technique, the heart will stop. Is this true, or just BS? I've never taken Ninjitsu very seriously.
     
  2. MatrixMA

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    It is true, but I don't know the mechanics of it.
     
  3. Spyderz20x6

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    Are you sure?
     
  4. LEGS MAHONEY

    LEGS MAHONEY genetically modified man shark

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    I NO TELL!!!!
    Well theres the solar plexus and thats not a fun place to be punched dead on and people have died in sports like hockey and baseball by getting hit there with a ball or puck so if the person punching can deliver similar force then voila but thats IF.

    You can kill a person punching them in alot of places You dont have to hit a secret area or even have some phenomenal punching power though.
     
  5. fightscience19

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    Blunt force trauma can cause MANY things to go wrong within your body. Stopping a persons heart by a strike to the chest region is probably possible, and has probably happened.
    As far as ninjitsu having a secret technique to do that, probably not. Ninjitsu as described in the 9 traditions of the Bujinkan, is simply the total art as used for deadly warfare and assasination. It focuses on the fastest and most efficient tactics for killing an enemy while leaving little trail behind.
    Example: sneaking up on an unsuspecting samurai to kill him, would you
    A. tap him on the shoulder and then try to beat him to death with a squaking chicken or
    B. cut his throat to muffle any scream, then sever his spine with the same knife while turning to escape?
    I choose B. Efficient, fast, silent.
    My point is: Why would a ninja even attempt to punch a man in the chest to kill him? Not likely to work every time, and therefore a waste of energy. That punching motion would be better used as an eye gouge, to blind the enemy while you prepare a killing attack.
    Being face to face, punching a person in the chest is not where a ninja wants to be. Too risky. Ninpo is about playing unfairly, so turn and run while dropping poisenous spikes for him to step on.
    Watch out for eggs filled with broken glass and salt too, they hurt when smashed into your eyes. Don't worry though, the pain will only last until your head gets sawed off by a stolen tanto.
     
  6. Spyderz20x6

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    Very informative! :D
     
  7. barnowl

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    It is not a cluster of nerves, but an a counter rhythm compression of the heart they were talking about. If you hit the chest hard enough to get really good compression of the chest long enough to complete suppress the normal rhythmic expansion of the heart, the heart has a nasty habit of just stopping. A good solid thump will also get it going again in this case.

    And before anyone ask "so why hasn't it happened in boxing", it has happened enough to get a nickname, "boxer's death". Still hard to pull off but not impossible.
     
  8. Spyderz20x6

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    Interesting...
    What about the punch to the armpit where if you hit it, your body shuts off?
     
  9. lparnes

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    ya its true. if you hit the ribs hard enough it will condences and push against the heart causing it to stop.
     
  10. Human Bass

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    That's really interesting.

    And must be more careful when sparring with my gf, since we exclude punchs to the face and only do bodyshots. :icon_chee
     
  11. barnowl

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    Does not shut the body off, it does render that arm temporarily unusable. This is pretty easy to pull off with an angled hook, knee or round house.

    If you can hit the arm pit hard enough, with a slight up angle so that the line of impact travels to the base of the neck, you can knock some one out that way. By hard enough I am talking a traveling side kick,a swung baseball bat or equivalent level impact force, it can transfer to the lower cervical vertebra pinch the spinal cord and whiplash the skull. Again this is a very very low % hit. Pretty much the other guy has to be caught flat footed for it to work.
     
  12. Respeezy

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    You're not supposed to talk about these secret deadly techniques.
     
  13. Bennosuke

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    In the armpit, up against the arm, is an exposed complex of nerves (the brachial plexus), and a major artery (the brachail artery/ axillary artery). A hard shot to this area (towards the top of the armpit or the top of the shoulder) could compress and damage these structures. You could definetly paralyze the arm for a few minutes this way, and rupturing the artery would be bad news bears. However, I don't think many people fight exposing their armpits, and you would need a fair amount of force as the body may just be jostled out of the way on impact
     
  14. Spyderz20x6

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    So it isn't very practical.
     
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    THE KEY TO BEATING NICK DIAZ! When he raises his hands in the air, that's when you strike with a deathpunch TO HIS ARMPIT
     
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    The Ninja popularity was fun but their was way too many martial arts with heart stopping techniques that usually drawed students in to martial arts class. After the master of the school weeded out who were the dedicated students, they usually passed on the the death punch/strike theory as a dangerous technique that you should only use if your life is in danger. Most students spread this bs out of respect for their teachers.
     
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  18. barnowl

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    that pretty much sums it up.
     

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