Nick Diaz way overrated? A look at his record

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  1. ironball

    ironball Brown Belt

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    I like diaz he's an exciting fighter sometimes, his fight with paul daley was awesome.

    But the man seems really overrated on here. He is a 1 trick pony- weather the storm and then swarm with punches when the opponent is gassed

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    PROS:
    - good boxing
    - great jiu jitsu
    - great cardio
    - good reach
    - good chin
    - good dirty boxing/ clinch

    CONS:
    - no tdd
    - no offensive wrestling
    - slow starter
    - doesn't have 1 punch KO power everyone likes to think he does (melvin guillard, hendricks, daley, those are guys with 1 punch, not diaz)
    - predictable
    - terrible kicking game (including checking kicks)
    - acts like a spoiled brat and is inactive


    lets look at some facts


    1. offered nothing against GSP & Carlos Condit (both fights were shit but its the truth)
    2. hasnt won a fight since 2011,
    3. lost to every top 10 he's fought (other than bj penn lol)
    4. is 7-6 in the ufc
    5. only top 10 fighter he has beat in the last 10 years is bj penn (who is a lightweight for christ sakes cmon people)

    his strikeforce/out of ufc win streak

    paul daley? sakurai? scott smith? zaromskis? LOL!

    all were top 15 at the time (if they even were that is) solely for being the only good WWs outside of the UFC.

    HIS OPPONENTS: LOL!:

    KJ noons went 1-4 in his next 5 fights after diaz and still hasnt broken the top 10 lol
    thomas denny since losing to diaz = 1-4-1
    scott smith = 2-4
    sakura was on a 2 fight losing streak when he fought diaz, = 2-2 since
    evangalista santos was 3-4 in his last 7 when he fought diaz, lost to unranked mein in his next fight, = 1-2 since
    zaromskis was ktfo in half the time it took diaz his next fight, is 7-4 since, losing to a bunch of unranked guys! LOL!

    his best win is paul daley, who has lost to every top 10 fighter hes faced since kampmann, including losing to a few non-top 10s like misako and yakovlev

    And before people say OMG HE KO'd robbie lawler!!!



    That fight was nearly 11 years ago

    Lets look at how Robbie Lawler was doing 11 years ago

    April 2003 - UFC 42 - LOST to Pete Spratt! LOL!
    November 2003 - UFC 45 - Beat Chris Lytle (good win)
    April 2004 - UFC 47 - LOST to Nick Diaz
    October 2005 - UFC 50 - LOST to Evan Tanner! LOL!
    September 2006 - ICON sport - LOST to Mayhem Miller

    It's been so long since Diaz beat lawler, that:

    - Anderson Silva lost in 2004 to Ryo Chonan (wtf)
    - Renan Barao lost in 2005 to Jo
     
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  2. JWtheKarateKid

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    you think too hard, who cares
     
  3. iwhoopedbatman

    iwhoopedbatman Fox Hunter Extraordinaire

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    He makes killers run and is about to beat the shit out of Anderson.
     
  4. FeloniousMonk

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    What's with all the math?

    NERD
     
  5. Endorse Freedom

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    I did think he beat Condit, but it was a close fight nonetheless. He's a good fighter, but he is overrated by most fans from what I've seen.
     
  6. garwoc

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    I'm in no way a nick Diaz fan but laughing at his Paul daley win especially after standing toe to toe with him is stupid

    Nick Diaz is very talented and maybe not as great as some claim but still a very good fighter and very entertaining to watch win or lose
     
  7. choke you

    choke you strangulation belt

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    Add to pros he has a granite chin
     
  8. Taric

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    Gomi and Daley are his greatest victories, assuming you count Gomi.
     
  9. underhi2p

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    Did you know Nick Diaz knocked out Robbie Lawler?

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  10. the ax murderer

    the ax murderer Looking At The Stars.

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    MarloStanfield The Wild Colonial Boy

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    doesnt he have a win over a current UFC champ?
     
  12. ironball

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    yeah 11 years ago right after getting submitted to Pete Spratt & just prior to getting submitted by Evan Tanner
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    so does Pete Spratt, Mayhem Miller, Evan Tanner, Babalu, Lorenz larkin lol

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  13. Mixed

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    lol
     
  14. TheNumber52

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    OP has no clue as to what he's talking about, needs to get back in the kitchen or go outside for once.
     
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    almost 11 years ago, that is not relevant. he would get tooled by robbie
     
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    Ya. 'Kay, dick. Such certainty. Brown didn't get tooled and is the same type of
    high pressure, technical brawler with a stone chin. I'd still book that hypothetical
    rematch as a likely highly contested bout, even 11 years later. With an edge to
    Diaz because of chin, cardio and accuracy.
     
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    I fully expect Silva to embarrass him.
     
  19. ironball

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    It's been so long since Diaz beat lawler, that:

    - Anderson Silva lost in 2004 to Ryo Chonan (wtf)
    - Renan Barao lost in 2005 to Jo
     
  20. kurtwpg

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    It's going to be funny when Anderson stands 2 feet away from Nick and fans call him a coward for ducking punches.
     

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