ngannou vs prime JDS

I'd put his resume above Cain tbh.

The werdum and Cain wins were the only wins I really care about. IDC about washed up cro cop, big country, yvel, or washed up Mir or carwin.

JDS is a one trick pony.
So beating Stipe in a war doesn't matter?
 
I'd put his resume above Cain tbh.

The werdum and Cain wins were the only wins I really care about. IDC about washed up cro cop, big country, yvel, or washed up Mir or carwin.

JDS is a one trick pony.
Neither Mir, Carwin nor CC were washed up. Cro Cop is a gatekeeper so doesn’t really do much for JDS but Carwin and Mir are good wins.
 
JDS easily. Ngannou has crazy power but he hasn't exactly proved that he can outstrike anyone when he doesn't land. People are buying into these quick flashes of brilliance, just like that had with 1st round Carwin, but eventually the time comes when that 1st round KO doesn't happen and then the truth comes out.

JDS was faster, had more proven cardio, a proven freak chin, had KO wins over much tougher fighters (Arlovski, Reem, and 1 fight in 5 years Cain are not exactly iron chins to say the least), beat infinitely better competition, and had a more well rounded striking game.

Just because a name was added to Ngannou's resume that looks impressive on paper doesn't mean he answered a lot of questions and is some proven world beater. He performed for 26 seconds against a guy who had 1 fight in 5 years and the only thing he proved is what we already knew - he hits hard. He has far too many question marks for any serious person to take him over an all time great like JDS at this stage
 
Prime JDS 8/10 (always a puncher's chance for Ngannou)
Currently Ngannou... 6/10?
 
Ngannou is not even in his prime yet. 2019 Ngannou kills 2019 dos Santos.
 
Ngannou is not even in his prime yet. 2019 Ngannou kills 2019 dos Santos.

After all these years his boxing is still shit, nothing will change.

sorry

well ... maybe he will lose his free pass for "s vitamins" in 1-2 years lol
 
The way Francis got smashed by Stipe... It was just too pathetic

I have to take JDS
 
I don't know. I wanna say JDS because he's a more complete fighter but his defense was always horrible.
He would get tagged a lot. He did have a granite chin, but to get hit by Ngannou full force is another ball game.

Maybe he would be the one to crack JDS with a single shot (something it took Cain like 200 shots during two fights).
 
Damn ... Prime Jds was a fucking animal. It would be a toss up. Today Nganou would knock him out silly , though.
 
Neither Mir, Carwin nor CC were washed up. Cro Cop is a gatekeeper so doesn’t really do much for JDS but Carwin and Mir are good wins.

Yes they were.

Carwin was coming off neck surgery or some shit. After the JDS fight the injuries continued and he couldn't fight anymore.

That's was 2 years after cro cop lost to Gonzaga and Congo.

Mir wasn't really washed up but he was on the downside of his career. That was the start of a 4 fight losing streak. That being said, he had to pull off a hail mary after nearly getting beaten by old Nog to even get that fight.
 
Prime JDS still had his shitty habit of backing up to the cage with zero head movement

I give Ngannou a 40% chance of KOing him in the 1st round, but anything after that and JDS should win
 
Prime JDS for sure
 
Beat on a shallow division just like Cain
JDS has defeated 5 UFC HW champions. If JDS is overrated than literally anybody not named Fedor, Nogueira, and Werdum is overrated.
Shut the hell up idiot. God damn you morons piss me off.
 
JDS has defeated 5 UFC HW champions. If JDS is overrated than literally anybody not named Fedor, Nogueira, and Werdum are overrated.
Shut the hell up idiot. God damn you morons piss me off.

Lol...how many of those guys were past their prime or before their before he defeated them? All of them but Cain.

You have to use context when you say that JDS beat 5 UFC champions.

I guess Bader beat the arguable GOAT, right?

JDS was a good striker with no ground game to speak of.

Ngannou is like JDS with more power, quicker hands, and worse cardio.

How's JDS going to game plan against Ngannou? He going to take him down? He going to wall and stall him? He going to use jiu jitsu? Haha.

The only way for JDS to beat Ngannou is to beat him on the feet. JDS couldn't even beat Reem when Reem gets KO'd by a light breeze these days.

Ngannou would end up counterstriking JDS's head into orbit like Overeem did.

Not that Ngannou is as good at counterstriking as Reem is, but he doesn't really need to be against somebody like JDS

I don't think JDS is overrated because he has done anything wrong or anything like that, just that he's a one dimensional fighter and happens to play right into Ngannou's strengths

Sometimes styles matter more than anything in MMA. While I think Werdum is a better all around fighter than JDS, I'd pick JDS to beat Werdum 25 straight times if I could. Werdum can't get somebody like JDS to the ground and he's never outstrike him.

I just don't see why JDS beating Cain on a flash KO, KOing glass chin Mir or beating a small guy like Carwin would affect a Ngannou fight in anyway.

Ngannou has more in common with Reem than he has with ground specialists like Mir, Werdum, or a wrestler like Cain.
 
Lol...how many of those guys were past their prime or before their before he defeated them?
He literally defeated nine top 10 HWs in a row the moment he walked into the UFC. Four of them were top 5. That means those fighters were all considered among the best HWs in the world at the time he beat them.

You're like those idiots that down play Fedor's career. Just shut up.
 
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