New to grappling, where do I start?

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  1. jonander50

    jonander50 Yellow Belt

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    Hello. I just started to take bjj classes.

    However I dont like the vanilla training class and I am looking for indications to increase my learning curve.

    My idea is to compete in MMA, so I am looking for no-gi techniques and concepts.

    How should I understand grappling? Where can I start? Which are the basic locks, movements? Any books, youtube channels worth?

    Cheers.
     
  2. JMG1134

    JMG1134 Orange Belt

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    Slow down a bit. Work the stuff you learn in the beginner class. It will take a bit to get in to grappling shape anyway, and the fundamental movements are used everywhere in BJJ. If you want to progress quickly, train as often as your time/body allow, and focus on the techniques being taught. There is nothing wrong with supplementing with videos etc, but if you are brand new, it's easy to overwhelm yourself to negative effect.
     
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  3. RJ Green

    RJ Green Black Belt

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  4. Allan san

    Allan san Green Belt

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    Start at the search function of this forum. You will be overwhelmed with information
     
  5. BJ@LW&WW

    [email protected]&WW Gold Belt

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    do you know the "vanilla" techniques? because learning them is probably a good place to start. but if you want a youtube blackbelt there are plenty of channels. submission101 sounds fitting for ya.
     
  6. Tebowned

    Tebowned Boise Dime.

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    Put in those hours and you'll get better. Also watch Marcelo Garcia Videos on youtube. Lots of them.
     
  7. Pizdek

    Pizdek Green Belt

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    just watch lot of DVDs
     
  8. Anthas

    Anthas Yellow Belt

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    If your "begginer" classes are full of berimbolos and gi grabbing acrobatics like mine were, I would really recommend that you check out "Blue belt requirements" from Roy Dean and "Gracie Combatives" and try to implement those techniques and principles in your real class sparring... That will really create a good foundation for you.
    The first thing you learn really is the last thing you forget and you don't want to ocuppy that space with anything but the basics.
     
  9. mattemate

    mattemate Brown Belt

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    Go to Ralph Gracie's school. Tell him you are not interested in this vanilla shit, you want advanced techniques, and that you want to be a fucking fighter. Then slap him. Please video record all of it.
     
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  10. NateTx4112

    NateTx4112 Brown Belt

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    Where do I downvote this thread at?
     
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  11. Russky

    Russky Green Belt

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    You are asking right questions. Do not listen to those who says that you should just shut up and train. They wasted years on stupid drills and warmups, and they think this is the right way to go.

    The truth is that everyone needs specific training based on his body type, past experience, athleticism, age, etc. If, say, you got very short legs, and you come to the class and they learn leg triangle - you waste this day, because you'll never be able to do that.

    What you should do is to start doing private classes with your coach 2-3 times a week. You will be moving 5-10 times faster than taking regular classes.

    If you think this is expensive then compare that with how much you would have to pay in 12 years (average time to black belt) for regular classes, and how much lifetime you can save.
     
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  12. Dogstarman

    Dogstarman Old man jiu jitsu

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    Please do this. Tell him these vanilla basic techniques are garbage and you want to learn the real shit.
     
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  13. JMG1134

    JMG1134 Orange Belt

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    I would agree with you if he was, say, 6 months in and had a good grasp of the fundamentals. But at brand new, he doesn't even know what he doesn't know, and watching a bunch of techniques on videos isn't going to change that at this point.

    Take the Upa/trap and roll escape, for example. That's the first move I learned. Put your average Joe in mount, I'm gonna roll him and escape. Put a skilled grappler in mount, even though I know the move really well, and have practiced it I don't know how many times, I'm still going to have to wait for an opportunity to use the move, or chain it with an elbow escape attempt, or something. You can't get that by watching videos. It takes mat time. Any time spent on anything other than fundamentals at this point is probably not the best time.
     
  14. HtomSirveaux

    HtomSirveaux Blue Belt

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    Just go to class and see if you're even still training after a year. The number of gung ho newbs with dreams of mma superstardom that drop out after 3 months is huge.

    If you're still around after that, imo 3-4 years of training bjj, wrestling and a striking art of your choice is the bare minimum of time needed before taking a fight.

    So long story short, shut the fuck up and train
     
  15. nefti

    nefti Red Belt

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    I think you should take a long hard look into catch-jitsu
     
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  16. lts5025

    lts5025 "What the **** is a Dim Mack?"

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    Terrible post. Anyone can do triangles and everyone should learn them.

    I agree that private lessons will accelerate learning, but 2-3 times a week is ridiculously expensive. At $50 per lesson (pretty standard from what I've seen) you're talking about $5,000 to $7500 more per year. Name me a black belt or MMA fighter who "private lessoned" his way to black belt. Private lessons have their place, but drilling and sparring will make up the bulk of any successful fighter's training.
     
  17. DrJitsu

    DrJitsu Orange Belt

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    Dude, how about just seeing if you actually like this stuff? Why are you even talking about a MMA fight? Is this a troll on f12 or something?
     
  18. TheGZA

    TheGZA Excellent! But not good.

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    This Russky guy claims he he bought weekly privates for three years without making blue belt. His coach must love him.

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  19. lts5025

    lts5025 "What the **** is a Dim Mack?"

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    Definitely someone I would take training advice from.
     
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  20. flapdragon

    flapdragon Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    you're right man, that vanilla shit wont play on the streetz
     

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