New school door locks

ralphc1

ralphc1

Titanium Belt
@Titanium
Joined
Feb 1, 2009
Messages
43,065
Reaction score
10,621
school-z-lock.jpg


URBANA, Mo A local principal has invented a new lock to help secure school doors in the case of an intruder.
Jason Pursley, the principal at Skyline Elementary, created the lock while researching new locks to use in the school.
"Nothing stood out at us, it was either too complicated to install, or too expensive. So I thought... there has got to be a better way." said Pursley.
Pursley went to the drawing board, and it took several tries, but he finally found a prototype that he liked.
"What I had in mind was simple, fast, and strong." said Pursley.
And it is strong, yet inexpensive. At only 35 dollars per door, other local superintendents loved that price tag.
Click to expand...

http://www.ky3.com/content/news/New...-to-help-with-school-intruders-475708793.html

$35 for this lock. What's wrong with a good old fashioned barrel bolt? A 6 inch long version with a .39 inch diameter bolt sells for $9. Screw the bolt to the door and drill a hole in the frame for the bolt to go into. Quick and easy to latch.
162370_c1

There are also heavier versions available for $14
71UqKy4z2XL._AC_UL160_SR160,160_.jpg


It's like reinventing the wheel.
 
The type of locks you are talking about won't work with the doors presented in the video so I don't see an issue with it.
 
Looks like a regular tubular lock. They use it on washing machines and candy machines and there are tools that can bypass it in seconds. If it's 35 bucks a door I can tell you it's not that difficult to get in. Especially if it's a prototype. In fact I'm sure theres a tool that will let them bypass it completely in seconds at that price range. Give it to a dude like bosnianbill or the lockpickinglawyer and see how fast they get in.

Also, never heard of a school shooter getting past a lock anyway. They don't have the time. If that's what they're trying to deter, locks aren't the issue. Sounds to me like someone trying to appease the parents. They'd have far more success removing windows in classrooms.

At 35 bucks I'd order one just to see how easily I could bypass it just for fun. Hell, I just cracked my first safe for the first time the other day and it was a thrill.
 
Last edited:
Just let everyone carry guns. Its just easier. If you dont want to you dont have too.
 
[<diva2]

There's no way to open the lock from the outside? What if everyone's dead inside because the gunman used these things to barricade hostages?
 
ralphc1 said:
school-z-lock.jpg




http://www.ky3.com/content/news/New...-to-help-with-school-intruders-475708793.html

$35 for this lock. What's wrong with a good old fashioned barrel bolt? A 6 inch long version with a .39 inch diameter bolt sells for $9. Screw the bolt to the door and drill a hole in the frame for the bolt to go into. Quick and easy to latch.
162370_c1

There are also heavier versions available for $14
71UqKy4z2XL._AC_UL160_SR160,160_.jpg


It's like reinventing the wheel.
Click to expand...
Uh oh, people are already moving on from the ban semi-automatic weapons debate and discussing door locks. Bad sign.
 
well if you reach a level of security that you feel the need to put locks all over the door might as well spend a little more and put an steel armored door in
 
Overeem said:
The type of locks you are talking about won't work with the doors presented in the video so I don't see an issue with it.
Click to expand...

I put them on 17 doors like those where I worked. You don't use the extra piece, just drill a hole in the frame that the bolt goes into. They also come with the extra piece for a wooden frame. The new latches have to be custom made for the door frame depth or shimmed.
 
ralphc1 said:
I put them on 17 doors like those where I worked. You don't use the extra piece, just drill a hole in the frame that the bolt goes into. They also come with the extra piece for a wooden frame. The new latches have to be custom made for the door frame depth or shimmed.
Click to expand...
Are barrel bolts pretty sturdy? Seems like they could fail with force generated by the average adult male.
 
Eazy123 said:
Looks like a regular tubular lock. They use it on washing machines and candy machines and there are tools that can bypass it in seconds. If it's 35 bucks a door I can tell you it's not that difficult to get in. Especially if it's a prototype. In fact I'm sure theres a tool that will let them bypass it completely in seconds at that price range. Give it to a dude like bosnianbill or the lockpickinglawyer and see how fast they get in.

Also, never heard of a school shooter getting past a lock anyway. They don't have the time. If that's what they're trying to deter, locks aren't the issue. Sounds to me like someone trying to appease the parents. They'd have far more success removing windows in classrooms.

At 35 bucks I'd order one just to see how easily I could bypass it just for fun. Hell, I just cracked my first safe for the first time the other day and it was a thrill.
Click to expand...

It would be nearly impossible to get either the new style or the barrel bolt open. The barrel bolt has a hole in the end where a pin or padlock can be placed. The new type could have a hole drilled and a pin or padlock added too. Fire codes usually prevent these.

The type in the story use bolts that go through the door. I assume a carriage bolt or elevator bolt. They can be drilled from the outside. It would probably take 5 to ten minutes with a good bit to drill the two bolts out. Using screws from the inside of the door makes it difficult to know where they are.
 
mushishi said:
Are barrel bolts pretty sturdy? Seems like they could fail with force generated by the average adult male.
Click to expand...

They use a 3/8 diameter shaft. Pretty difficult to pull with enough force to bend that. The heavier ones have a 5/8 diameter shaft. The door would fail before either shaft.
 
Leonard Haid said:
Uh oh, people are already moving on from the ban semi-automatic weapons debate and discussing door locks. Bad sign.
Click to expand...

Yes, it's like making airplane cockpit doors stronger then having one pilot locking the other out and flying the plane into the side of a mountain.

An intruder could lock themselves in a room with children and make it difficult for authorities to get in.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,254,352
Messages
56,641,538
Members
175,324
Latest member
heathmill

Share this page

Back
Top