New Gym Issue Advice

[CanadianMMA]

Hey, so I have been training BJJ for about 6 years on and off now mostly because life out a delay on training and recently moved to a new city. The city really only has 2 BJJ gyms one is at a MMA school and the other is pretty much a straight sport jiu jitsu school and only offers BJJ.
Now I decided to go to the sport school as it was closer to my house. So after a couple months rolling there the coach messages me on Facebook to tell me "that a lot of the guys have been complaining I roll to hard" now I was taken back by the as in my 6 years and 4-5 different clubs I've never been told I roll to hard.
I apologized to the instructor and stated I didn't know (which I didn't) and would try to go easier on people. Now he also said that he's never noticed this when we rolled and stated that I don't carry myself like an ass and nobody says they hate me or anything. Which is good, but he said his 3-4 most dedicated students are the ones who've complained that I roll to hard for the clubs liking.
Now I have a background in wrestling and did fairly well in that as well as I'm a bigger guy around 205-210 but like muscular in shape bigger. I also have trained at all MMA schools (just BJJ not MMA) before hand to which I could think has made me more used to contact as many MMA guys don't mind contact.
But my opinion is what should I do? Switch schools, suck it up or what? I find it really weird because I roll the same with everyone and don't try to smash people as it's just a hobby/exercise for me.

Thanks!

 

[deadlizard]

There's nothing on this post that cannot be remedied with coleslaw.

 

[the heed]

There's nothing on this post that cannot be remedied with coleslaw.

I agree
coleslaw

 

[JMG1134]

 

[Ton]

I'm sure if you just rubbed some maple syrup on yourself before rolling this would be a non-issue.

On a completely unrelated note: i would probably switch gyms.

 

[Nnedd]

Go harder.

 

[anaconda]

That's pretty sad.

If you're experienced (which it seems you are) I can't imagine you're so much of a spaz that they are worried about injury. Honestly I would keep going for a while until you can switch.

The only thing that would keep me is that the coach seems to be on your side.

 

[DCnMO]

Kinda hard to believe that 3-4 folks would complain for no reason.

 

[JMG1134]

Suppose I'll give a real answer now...Are you smashing the 3-4 dedicated students? Are they ranked higher than you? If the answer to those is yes, I'm guessing it's more of a bruised ego problem than anything. While that doesn't solve your problem, it at least explains it.

If I felt like I couldn't go 100% at a gym, I wouldn't train there anymore. Obviously, we can't all go 100% all the time, and really shouldn't on new/unskilled people, but to not have the option is another thing altogether.

 

[Ton]

Also, those guys didn't say anything to your face and instead told the instructor??? Are you sure you didn't accidentally enroll in a kindergarten?

 

[AK Gerard]

Kinda hard to believe that 3-4 folks would complain for no reason.

My thought at first as well. However, while I'd like to think it not possible at a BJJ gym, some groups of people tend to be cliquey. All it might have taken was TS to upset one of the dedicated members and that member then complained and was able to convince some friends to complain as well.

 

[fishNjits]

There's nothing on this post that cannot be remedied with coleslaw.

I don't think cole slaw will do much for the lack of grammar.

"Hard" is an adjective describing how you roll. "Too" is an adverb describing the adjective.
How hard do you roll? Too hard.

Meanwhile, TS, try asking one of the bitches what the story is.

 

[anaconda]

Suppose I'll give a real answer now...Are you smashing the 3-4 dedicated students? Are they ranked higher than you? If the answer to those is yes, I'm guessing it's more of a bruised ego problem than anything. While that doesn't solve your problem, it at least explains it.

If I felt like I couldn't go 100% at a gym, I wouldn't train there anymore. Obviously, we can't all go 100% all the time, and really shouldn't on new/unskilled people, but to not have the option is another thing altogether.

I agree with this and it was my first impression.

Sort of a club style gym, new guy with wrestling experience and lower ranking smashes them, egos are hurt.

But he could be a spazz - except that the coach doesn't think so.

 

[Was at Pride GP 2000]

What did the coach suggest?
Do you tap those 4 guys out all the time? Whay do you want out of jiu jitsu?
If the coach told you the problem with no suggestions I would ask him. Do you want me to roll hard? Do you want me to go easy? How should we as a group fix this so we all underground the expectations.
If there is a conflict it is usually because two groups do not have the same expectations.
How much bigger are you than those guys. Can you beat them without using so much power. When I roll with smaller guys I focus on rolling without using strength or my weight. Is my technique good enough to win. It usually is but when I first started it wasnt.

If you want a school where rolling hard 100 percent of the time is whay you want then this might not be the right school. It might be time to go to the mma school. You need to know what you want and need out of it and make the next best decision.

Good luck

 

[lechien]

Coach is messaging on fb to discuss issues like that.
Just leave. Nothing good can come out of this gym.

 

[DCnMO]

Just my two cents, I could be wrong, and I'm certainly biased being a small guy myself...

When I think of someone who's 200+lbs with wrestling experience, I think of someone who's typically agressive, and someone who likes to smash rather than take risks by expanding their game. I've met a lot of guys like this. They don't want to leave their comfort zone, they don't want to risk being submitted by a smaller person. They don't like getting caught slipping by someone with more skill, so they rely on pressure and a few subs.

May not be the case here, but I've experienced quite a bit of this myself.

 

[anaconda]

Just my two cents, I could be wrong, and I'm certainly biased being a small guy myself...

When I think of someone who's 200+lbs with wrestling experience, I think of someone who's typically agressive, and someone who likes to smash rather than take risks by expanding their game. I've met a lot of guys like this. They don't want to leave their comfort zone, they don't want to risk being submitted by a smaller person. They don't like getting caught slipping by someone with more skill, so they rely on pressure and a few subs.

May not be the case here, but I've experienced quite a bit of this myself.

But who would complain about that? Would you run to your coach to tell him that guy is training too hard?

Just use that guy for those types of rolls. Know what it is going in, and learn from it.

 

[DCnMO]

But who would complain about that? Would you run to your coach to tell him that guy is training too hard?

Just use that guy for those types of rolls. Know what it is going in, and learn from it.

Nobody is going to complain about a skillful member, new or not, regardless of weight, especially not 3-4 people.

 

[the heed]

I agree with this and it was my first impression.

Sort of a club style gym, new guy with wrestling experience and lower ranking smashes them, egos are hurt.

But he could be a spazz - except that the coach doesn't think so.

sounds like some people's feelings got hurt

 

[anaconda]

Nobody is going to complain about a skillful member, new or not, regardless of weight, especially not 3-4 people.

I think it depends on the club. I've visited places where rolling above 50% is considered spazzing.