Social New Deepfake tech goes full frontal

[Deleted member 484047]

Well, this certainly isn't creepy as all hell.

It was one thing for people to toss a persons face onto another persons body. But this is taking it to a whole new level, and quite honestly I think the government REALLY needs to step up to the plate and deal with this before it gets out of hand.

A new AI-powered software tool makes it easy for anyone to generate realistic nude images of women simply by feeding the program a picture of the intended target wearing clothes.

The app is called DeepNude and it’s the latest example of AI-generated deepfakes being used to create compromising images of unsuspecting women. The software was first spotted by Motherboard’s Samantha Cole, and is available to download free for Windows, with a premium version that offers better resolution output images available for $99.

Both the free and premium versions of the app add watermarks to the AI-generated nudes that clearly identify them as “fake.” But in the images created by Motherboard, this watermark is easy to remove. (We were unable to test the app ourselves as the servers have apparently been overloaded.)

I get that this version produces low resolution images that will be easy enough to debunk, but thats not really the point. We are now entering territory where anyone can simply grab a picture online and turn it into a realistic nude. Sure, people have been doing this for quite some time when it comes to celebrities, but imagine your average person having a picture saved from facebook, instagram, or twitter and having this done to them. Give it a few more months or years, and it's going to be capable to producing images that aren't obviously fake.

What really bothers me is that people aren't up in arms about this kind of technology. Every time that someone creates a new or better version of deepfaking, it barely even registers on the news. There needs to be pressure on government officials to put the kibosh on things like this, or even severe limitations, even if it may be to late now. I'm normally not one to be all for the government squashing innovation in technology, but something like this I think is starting to cross lines that aren't okay with me.

Deepfakes do exist in a legal gray area though, with lawyers saying that AI-generated nudes could constitute defamation, but that removing them from the internet would be a possible violation of the First Amendment.

And this is the rub, as it actually does seem that deepfaking is both legal and illegal in several ways. So it needs to be straightened out in the legal system before anyone can even begin fighting it.

So what say you?

 

[raty tat tat]

Well, this certainly isn't creepy as all hell.

It was one thing for people to toss a persons face onto another persons body. But this is taking it to a whole new level, and quite honestly I think the government REALLY needs to step up to the plate and deal with this before it gets out of hand.



I get that this version produces low resolution images that will be easy enough to debunk, but thats not really the point. We are now entering territory where anyone can simply grab a picture online and turn it into a realistic nude. Sure, people have been doing this for quite some time when it comes to celebrities, but imagine your average person having a picture saved from facebook, instagram, or twitter and having this done to them. Give it a few more months or years, and it's going to be capable to producing images that aren't obviously fake.

What really bothers me is that people aren't up in arms about this kind of technology. Every time that someone creates a new or better version of deepfaking, it barely even registers on the news. There needs to be pressure on government officials to put the kibosh on things like this, or even severe limitations, even if it may be to late now. I'm normally not one to be all for the government squashing innovation in technology, but something like this I think is starting to cross lines that aren't okay with me.



And this is the rub, as it actually does seem that deepfaking is both legal and illegal in several ways. So it needs to be straightened out in the legal system before anyone can even begin fighting it.

So what say you?

This Deep Fake tech is scary.

 

[milliniar]

You're late it's already gone, because people made a stink about it, well it's the internet so will always be around.
It nothing you can stop this was just much faster than Photoshop.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761496/deepnude-shuts-down-deepfake-nude-ai-app-women

 

[Deleted member 484047]

You're late it's already gone, because people made a stink about it, well it's the internet so will always be around.
It nothing you can stop this was just much faster than Photoshop.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761496/deepnude-shuts-down-deepfake-nude-ai-app-women

I'm aware of the fact that this program has already been taken down, but it's int eh wild now so there is no stopping it.

The question I was mainly asking was when and how far will the government go to combat the abuse this is going to cause. Because we seem to be at a point where you can't stop people from doing it, you can't force them to take it down, it's essentially a free for all because the law hasn't caught up to the technology.

 

[Rational Poster]

Well, this certainly isn't creepy as all hell.

It was one thing for people to toss a persons face onto another persons body. But this is taking it to a whole new level, and quite honestly I think the government REALLY needs to step up to the plate and deal with this before it gets out of hand.



I get that this version produces low resolution images that will be easy enough to debunk, but thats not really the point. We are now entering territory where anyone can simply grab a picture online and turn it into a realistic nude. Sure, people have been doing this for quite some time when it comes to celebrities, but imagine your average person having a picture saved from facebook, instagram, or twitter and having this done to them. Give it a few more months or years, and it's going to be capable to producing images that aren't obviously fake.

What really bothers me is that people aren't up in arms about this kind of technology. Every time that someone creates a new or better version of deepfaking, it barely even registers on the news. There needs to be pressure on government officials to put the kibosh on things like this, or even severe limitations, even if it may be to late now. I'm normally not one to be all for the government squashing innovation in technology, but something like this I think is starting to cross lines that aren't okay with me.



And this is the rub, as it actually does seem that deepfaking is both legal and illegal in several ways. So it needs to be straightened out in the legal system before anyone can even begin fighting it.

So what say you?

LOL, the government isn't going to step up here.

The government is the main customer for this type of technology.

 

[cooks1]

Well, this certainly isn't creepy as all hell.

It was one thing for people to toss a persons face onto another persons body. But this is taking it to a whole new level, and quite honestly I think the government REALLY needs to step up to the plate and deal with this before it gets out of hand.



I get that this version produces low resolution images that will be easy enough to debunk, but thats not really the point. We are now entering territory where anyone can simply grab a picture online and turn it into a realistic nude. Sure, people have been doing this for quite some time when it comes to celebrities, but imagine your average person having a picture saved from facebook, instagram, or twitter and having this done to them. Give it a few more months or years, and it's going to be capable to producing images that aren't obviously fake.

What really bothers me is that people aren't up in arms about this kind of technology. Every time that someone creates a new or better version of deepfaking, it barely even registers on the news. There needs to be pressure on government officials to put the kibosh on things like this, or even severe limitations, even if it may be to late now. I'm normally not one to be all for the government squashing innovation in technology, but something like this I think is starting to cross lines that aren't okay with me.



And this is the rub, as it actually does seem that deepfaking is both legal and illegal in several ways. So it needs to be straightened out in the legal system before anyone can even begin fighting it.

So what say you?

Pretty soon it will get to the point where women wearing clothing to conceal their bodies will be pointless....

Of course that will open the Pandoras box of women not wearing clothes that we really want wearing clothes. Or at least bags or something. But I am confident our Municipal, State and Federal governments will be able to work across the aisle and mandate attire for the fatties and the less desirable.

 

[Reactionary Corporatist]

This Deep Fake tech is scary.

I for one enjoy jerking off to Scarlett Johansen and Emilia Clarke. What is there to complain about?

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

You want the government to stop this?

 

[Deleted member 484047]

You want the government to stop this?

Yes? Why would you not?

 

[HereticBD]

The deep fake stuff in general is pretty crazy, and will give a whole new definition to "fake news" in the coming years.

As for this, meh? It's really no different than a well made fake in photoshop. I don't know why this aspect of the tech is gaining any particular ire that photoshop seems to be immune to. I could actually see it being somewhat of an asset in a way. Now, if a celeb's phone gets hacked and some compromising pics are uncovered, they could just say it's fake and it would be believable.

 

[DespicablePeep]

where is the link to the app GODDAMNIT


*taken down :/

 

[ultramanhyata]

If anything I think this deep fake tech is a blessing. Now people with genuinely embarrassing photos or vids that fall into the wrong hands can claim the images are sophisticated fakes and they will be essentially impossible to validate.

 

[Ornife]

We will finally have the Trump pee tape.

Impeachment imminent.

 

[Gunny]

I don’t worry about this too much. Once deep fake nudes are ubiquitous, the whole idea of nudes will just lose its relevance.

 

[raty tat tat]

That's why I'm glad I never posted photos
of myself in the post a pic of yourself thread.

I can only imagine how many of you pervs would be using
that on me.

 

[HomeRun916]

Making fake naked pictures?

Seems odd.

 

[JamesRussler]

Well, this certainly isn't creepy as all hell.

It was one thing for people to toss a persons face onto another persons body. But this is taking it to a whole new level, and quite honestly I think the government REALLY needs to step up to the plate and deal with this before it gets out of hand.

I get that this version produces low resolution images that will be easy enough to debunk, but thats not really the point. We are now entering territory where anyone can simply grab a picture online and turn it into a realistic nude. Sure, people have been doing this for quite some time when it comes to celebrities, but imagine your average person having a picture saved from facebook, instagram, or twitter and having this done to them. Give it a few more months or years, and it's going to be capable to producing images that aren't obviously fake.

What really bothers me is that people aren't up in arms about this kind of technology. Every time that someone creates a new or better version of deepfaking, it barely even registers on the news. There needs to be pressure on government officials to put the kibosh on things like this, or even severe limitations, even if it may be to late now. I'm normally not one to be all for the government squashing innovation in technology, but something like this I think is starting to cross lines that aren't okay with me.

And this is the rub, as it actually does seem that deepfaking is both legal and illegal in several ways. So it needs to be straightened out in the legal system before anyone can even begin fighting it.

So what say you?

I agree, there need to be some hard limits with deepfakes. The same is true for other sorts of disruptive technology, such as AI, surveillance/tracking equipment, etc. The government already outlaws certain types of technology (especially in the case of weapons), so there is some precedent for this. I don’t think it’s wise to take a “hands off, wait and see” approach on this issue.

The big problem is that with the whole world connected via internet, what would stop someone from another country creating and circulating deepfakes in the USA? The videos/pictures themselves surely can’t be outlawed. We may be able to regulate or ban the software, but that doesn’t exactly prevent deepfakes from being circulated.

Our partial solution is twofold: first, require sophisticated deepfake software in the USA to overlay a watermark, or at least include some way for a lay observer to see that it’s a deepfake. Criminalize possession of deepfake software that lacks authentication features, the same way we criminalize possession of guns with altered/removed serial numbers. Second, we should develop software that can detect advanced deepfakes. This software should be highly sophisticated—at least as advanced as deepfake technology. It’s not a perfect solution, but it would probably prevent most deepfake-related trashfires in the USA.

It may be possible also to criminalize publication (not mere possession) of highly sophisticated deepfakes that falsely portray innocent persons committing heinous crimes. This would be a tedious process, but I believe it may be possible under our laws. Certainly impose liability for defamatory deepfakes—perhaps even strict liability.

As always, people must learn to be critical consumers of information. That’s the way it has always been.

 

[Sketch]

This technology is awesome. I can finally get those nudes of @Lowmanproblems I've wanted for years.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

It just pastes an idealized breast in place of a bikini lol. They're not the real breasts. Also, use clothes more substantial than bikinis and problem solved.

 

[Leagon]

What a fascinating time to be alive.

We criticize civilizations that came before us a lot for their tenuous relationship with empiricism and truth, how quick they were to accept impossible explanations, how easily they accepted rumor.

The internet has brought us back full circle to what it's like to believe there are dragons just beyond the hill. There's so much information that we've all retreated into our self-sustaining, faith-based information bubbles (the earth is flat, vaccines cause autism, Hillary Clinton is running a ring from a pizza shop) and so much convincing misinformation that we don't know what to believe anymore.

I like it. Donald was just the harbinger of the death of truth. Believe what feels right, accept what seems good, deny everything you don't like.

On the plus side, any actress who has her nudes leaked can now just claim they're deepfakes.