Need tips in three moves: Kimura from guard, Keeping the grape vine, and def. guardpa

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  1. drumerdud

    drumerdud Blue Belt

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    Ey guys, my tournaments in a few days, but unfortunately im sick..>GRR!!!!! although i feel i have trained hard enough,,there are just some things ide like to know before anything.


    From the guard:
    when i try to do the kimura, and the guy defends by clasping his hands together, what moves can i do? would the kimura sweep work?


    From the guard:
    Lets say my opponent tries to pass by lowering his body,and clasping his hands together on my hips, and then sprawls to break them apart, what should i do to defend this? or what counters can i do?

    FROM THE MOUNT:
    when im in the mount and go for a grape vine:
    What are the details i should keep in mind so as not to get sweeped, and so i feel heavy on them

    From the mount:
    On the normal mount, i feel i always get swept. Details i should follow?
     
  2. mj12

    mj12 Blue Belt

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    why dont you ask your teacher? thats what u are paying him for
     
  3. drumerdud

    drumerdud Blue Belt

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    I told u, my comp is in 2 days...and im SICK! haha i know i know, the freakn timing. And dont worry ive trained pretty hard, its just that,,,while brainstorming, i realized these 4 positions that i should be worried about.
     
  4. vitor3000

    vitor3000 Blue Belt

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    From the guard:
    HIP BUMP!


    FROM THE MOUNT:
    smother his face or develop a good base with your hands. Attack the neck with an ezekiel choke.
     
  5. drumerdud

    drumerdud Blue Belt

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    with regards to the hip bump, i try it but have a hard time when he hold his hands against each other on my back.
     
  6. TheHighlander

    TheHighlander Green Belt

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  7. drumerdud

    drumerdud Blue Belt

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    thanks!
     
  8. whipyourasstyle

    whipyourasstyle Exitus acta probat

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    BJJ is an art of finesse, there is no "if opponent does A you do B, If opponent does C you do D" etc. To take one of your situations for example:

    If you miss the kimora from guard there are MANY ways to deal with your opponent. If he clasps his hands but has a loose posture you could try an omaplata, or triangle. If he tries to crush you back onto your back you can sweep by using his momentum and scooping under his thigh, if he defends then armbar. If he stays up try the hip bump, If he defends that move back to the kimora. If you miss the kimora again try to reach around for a guillotine.

    Again BJJ is very dynamic, remember your opponent is ALWAYS vulnerable for SOMETHING (sweep, sub, transition) you just have to look/feel for it.
     
  9. Calibur

    Calibur Jiu Jitsu Snob

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    Bad time to be asking questions. You dont have much time so you should be thinking of everything you do well and thinking of ways to get in the position.

    Conversely, you should be thinking of all of your weak points and thinking of ways to stay out of them, not ways to escape them once you are there.

    There is no point in attempting something in a tournament that you havent drilled in practice. Hit your strong points and everything will work out the way it was meant to.
     
  10. FIGHTING TALK

    FIGHTING TALK Brown Belt

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    I used to submit ppl with kimuras from guard more than everything else combined.

    Now im rolling with better guys they tend not to base on the mat so i dont pick up the kimura very much anymore. Still if i go with someone who isnt very experienced i still look for the kimura as soon as they base on the mat.
     
  11. FLMikeATT

    FLMikeATT Purple Belt

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    If you go for the kimura and he defends by clasping his hands together, a good move that I was taught by Liborio is a reverse armbar. When he defends, release the kimura grip and shoot your same side arm under the arm you were trying to kimura, curl it over his elbow and clasp with a gable grip, and shrimp out to the opposite side, increasing the pressure of the armbar with your knees.

    I've had great success with the reverse armbar. Not just off the kimura, but a lot of times guys get lazy and put their arms up by your head when in your guard, you just reach under an arm, clasp with gable grip, and shrimp out and apply pressure. It is possible to use brute strength to power out of it, but if you shrimp out and use squeeze your knees on his shoulder, it makes it a lot harder to escape.

    If they manage to twist their arm to relieve the pressure on the elbow, or manage some other defense, you can transition into an omo or triangle pretty easily.

    This move should be in every boojers play book.

    oh yeah, this move is a lot easier in the gi due to the friction. When you do no gi and his arm is all sweaty, it's somewhat hard to lock up. Still a great move to threaten with though.
     
  12. green_machine

    green_machine Orange Belt

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    I think that's the best time to do it. If he's clasping his hands together behind your back, then he has no hand to base out with. When you are going for that sweep make sure you lift your hips off of the ground before you do the sweeping motion to the side. Lift them high, kind of like you're trying to touch your stomach to his chest, then sweep. If you're sitting on the mat it means your hips and low and you'll get no leverage. Only three parts of your body should be touching the mat: your hand, and both of your feet.
     

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