Need help securing side mount after guard pass

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  1. ThR1LL

    ThR1LL Yellow Belt

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    Hey guys I need some help here. I have a training partner who outweighs me by around 20lbs but we're the same height. Whenever I try to pass his closed guard I can never secure side mount because I can't get past his arms when he locks them straight and stiff arms my body. I'm usually pushed past his waist while he shrimps at the same time of doing this. Any pointers on how I effectively pass his guard into a secure side mount?
     
  2. SPSUDISPATCH

    SPSUDISPATCH Purple Belt

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    You are too high when passing. Drive your shoulder into his cheek or chin and keep your weight on it. Also, once you pass, place your lower hand (the hand nearest his waist) next to his hip on the side same side as your body, this will help prevent (though not 100%) him from recomposing the guard. It would help to know exactly how you are passing his guard, video would help.
     
  3. berimBOWLoh

    berimBOWLoh Silver Belt

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    if you cant control his shoulders/head via underhook/crossface, control his hips via leg drag type positioning. I usually go for that type of control 1st regardless because its harder to defend.
     
  4. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    Problem number one: thinking that side mount is the only option to establish you guard pass.
    Option one: establish knee on the belly instead of side
    mount.
    Option two: establish North South instead of side mount.
     
  5. Cconstandse

    Cconstandse Black belt in Awesomeness!

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    Problem no two: thinking that asking random people on the internet will make you better at grappling.

    The information ypu provide its useless to give any proper advice, specially the 20 pound diference of your training partner. You are better off seeking advice pf someone who actually sees you sparring and can notice the mistakes you might be making.

    For me stiff arm while i have passed the guard means taking the arm and either going into north south for a kimura or going all the way to the other side for the arm bar
     
  6. Kevza

    Kevza Blue Belt

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    In this case, maybe we shouldnt have a grappling forum at all, if its pointless asking harmless questions.... FFS.
     
  7. dmwalking

    dmwalking Sapateiro Belt

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    Why do so many threads always mention weight? Lol.

    Honestly, there are lots of ways to deal with it. It's kind of hard to describe and list them all. Youtube it. You'll find plenty.
     
  8. dmwalking

    dmwalking Sapateiro Belt

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    thugpoet Purple Belt

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    Came in to say this
     
  10. Glokta

    Glokta Yellow Belt

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    Still this, when faced with a wall go around it dont run straight at it Takeshi's castle style.
     
  11. Russky

    Russky Green Belt

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    Switch hips, turn your body away from opponent and get into reverse kesa gatame. His hands will slide down and won't block you anymore. Just be gentle with your partner so you do not break his wrists. Stabilize, then switch hips again into side mount.
     
  12. rmongler

    rmongler Black Belt

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    Force Alf gward and do this.

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    Alternately, just skip all the steps and go strait to this.

    [Yt]bar55_SWkaE[/MEDIA]
     

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