Hey fellas, I've been on the forums for awhile now, but I haven't really gotten in to any postings. I do a lot of boxing sparring and up until this point have been using the Rival d3o headgear and as great as it is, I've gotten my fair share of bloody noses since the D3o doesn't do a great job of providing much protection for the nose. I read Skribble's review (great review btw) and it seems that even as great as it is, you can't seem to avoid nosebleeds without a face bar (well, other than avoid getting hit :redface. I just got a pair of 16oz Winnings so the FG-5000 is out of my price range and I haven't heard much about the new redesigned Cleto Reyes. I've also heard that for training purposes, the disadvantage of a face saver is that it makes it much harder to see and you lose the feeling of getting hit in the face during sparring, which could prove to be a disadvantage when it comes to actual competition in a way I suppose. Any opinions or comments would help!