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As long as you gave them a fair chance, and you learned them correctly, then its fine. Nobody uses every move. Find what works for your body type.
It depends on a lot of factors. I was helping a big guy (295) with his wrestling the other day and I told him flat out not to shoot for singles and doubles. At his size, he is just going to be too slow to get them. Bigger wrestlers rarely shoot. I don't don't do singles and double just don't shoot from the outside.
Even though, I am not that big (200) I rarely shoot. I get my singles and doubles from in the clinch. Some options include a high dive, which is a greco move that resembles a football tackle. There is also what I call a big guy double which is like a high dive only with the hands just under his butt.
is a high dive the name for the takedown brock lesnar does in all of his fights?
korleone1911 said:well... I'm tall so I don't usually use them from standing, but I do use them from knees, like when I am escaping side control or something.
If you can't shoot, how are yoiu going to takedown someone who has the same gameplan as you? Tons of heavyweights I see at local and naga lvl shows have almost no takedown game. Their plan is to be hard to takedown, and let the other guy make the move.
For tall guys- It's a Long Way to the Ground (If You Wanna Shoot a Leg).
There are more to takedowns then shooting singles and doubles. If you specifically meant the poster above you, you can bait guys into to shooting on you and counter. I wrestled like that a lot in when I wrestled. Present openings that aren't really there and counter. Granted that probably works a lot better in pure wrestling then something like sub grappling.
However I have to say that in my limited experience, this stops working against decent wrestlers. Competitive ones (most wrestlers) would shoot and take me down, or shoot / fake shoot and counter my counter as someone mentionned, or would just grind their way out of the sprawl and gain control.
And someone said that if both guys have the same plan nothing will happen. But you do go for sweeps, arm drags, hip throws, etc....while being on the lookout for the singles and doubles. You just don't initiate the shoot.