Nearly blacked out after power cleans

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  1. Wild Dan Hibiki

    Wild Dan Hibiki Black Belt

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    Judo - 2 hours
    Squat 5 x 5
    Overhead presses 5 x 5
    Power cleans 5 x 5

    Dont do it!

    they were fun to do though, my form sucks though so i wanna see if i can record a video and ask for critiquing
     
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    Mumrik Silver Belt

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    I'm regularly close after DL reps. If I go just a bit too heavy on the breathing (noob mistake) I lose vision and balance as soon as I release the weight.


    Sure you're not just overdoing it a bit with regard to holding the air in?
     
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    You sure when you racked the weight the bar wasn't blocking your airway?
     
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    Damn Sherdog.
     
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    Hmmm my workout yesterday...

    7 Sets Deadlift
    6 Sets Power Cleans
    5 Sets Weighted Dips
    5 Sets Weighted Chins
    3 Sets Overhead Press
     
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    5x5 is a bit intense for power cleans.

    If they are heavy I never do more than 3 at a time, and if they are light... obviously you won't screw up your breathing so much.
     
  7. B3rserk3R

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    That does seem like a ton of volume after 2 hours of practice. I've just restarted rethinking 5x5 for strength after reading an interesting (not compelling but worth some thought) argument against here: http://http://www.ericcressey.blogspot.com/
     
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    ratman201 S&P's resident Chef

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    I don't think anyones going to argue with that logic, most of the guys that support 5x5 programs also advocate a lower volume/higher intensity program for intermediate and advanced lifters.
     
  9. JPC

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    I sometimes almost black out when I stand up from the hyperextension bench, from being upside down during the set, but never from cleans or squats, or deads.
     
  10. Mumrik

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    BTW. I usually prefer to lift before MA on days where I end up having to do both... Pretty much the same reasons as given in the lifting/cardio on the same day thread.
     
  11. Wild Dan Hibiki

    Wild Dan Hibiki Black Belt

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    i know, my scheduling kinda sucks, i wake up late like in the arvo then go to judo and lift afterwards.

    i will do lifting in the mornings and judo in the arvo from now on though.

    and boy is my body aching
     
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    Lifting before Judo seems like a good idea.
     
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    6 mg ephedrine+5 heavy dealifts does the same thing to me
     
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    Ah... fair enough, I feel your pain.
     
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    Does it really make a difference? I'm new to MA but not to weights, and one of the things I've struggled a bit with is getting the 2 to be harmonious.
     
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    There was a thread recently about doing cardio and lifting on the same day. MA is closer to cardio in my mind, so you might want to check that thread out - it had some pretty good info on my it makes sense to lift first.
     
  17. JinKazama

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    dude power cleans are pretty intense,

    my mondays suck
     
  18. B3rserk3R

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    It would seem that the type of MA would dictate how close to cardio it is. Though I may have to give it a try. My other thought is to cycle my training year like most sports to de-emphasize BJJ for a couple months (drop down to twice a week) and spend the extra time focusing completely on max strength.
     
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    Here's the thread...


    As for the 5 mile bike rides that get brought up - I'd call that a warm up, not real cardio.
     
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    the challenge now is waking up early enough
     

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