Nate Diaz vs McGregor & Johnson

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  1. deviake

    deviake RIGHT MEOW YEAH

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    I watched Diaz/Ol' Greg a couple days ago, and I just finished Diaz/Johnson.

    I can't get over how good he looked against Michael Johnson (it's been awhile since I've watched it). Not only was he checking kicks, but he used the Thai Clinch effectively, landed a front kick to the face (albeit not with much impact), and even landed a couple head kicks! The timing on the head kick he threw in the third round was excellent. He looked really well rounded in his striking and I don't think I've ever seen him that cut up.

    He did better against McGregor than I remembered. McGregor landed some solid lefts and body shots, but I had forgotten how many times Nate made him miss.

    After watching both it's hard for me to see how McGregor wins unless he keeps Nate off balance with variety, doesn't tire, and lands a picture perfect power left. Diaz with renewed motivation and prep time is a monster; Johnson and Mcgregor are no joke. I think Johnson is faster than McGregor and throws more combos, but Nate was already getting his range before the first round was over. People forget how good Johnson is, and how good his chin is - holy shit. He took harder 1-2's than McGregor did multiple times and didn't even get wobbly.

    Anyway, Nate via sub or TKO in round three. Conor will look better but he's going to have a harder time landing meaningful shots. Nate is going to block and roll with more of them, will get his range and timing faster, and will be throwing harder and with more volume than last time. Conor is going to wilt. He shouldn't have pursued this rematch.

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    Both fights can be found on youtube.
     
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  2. F0od

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    Honestly he'd beat both in one night
     
  3. deviake

    deviake RIGHT MEOW YEAH

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    There will be another cleansing of the parasitic Conor fans, and most of what's left will be his true fans, myself included actually.
     
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    sirmorbach These violent delights have violent ends

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    That's a very good breakdown. Nate looked amazing against Michael Johnson.

    As for UFC 202, I am truly a fan of both Conor and Nate and all I can hope for is another amazing fight. After their first fight, logic obviously says Nate beats The Notorious again, but well, you never know... love him or hate him, McGregor actually is obsessed with his training and he's a smart guy. There is a chance he comes up with the right strategy.

    Or maybe Nate slaps his head off again. Either way, I'll be happy and sad at the same time.
     
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  5. deviake

    deviake RIGHT MEOW YEAH

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    Thanks, and well said.

    Win or lose, I think Conor is going to put up a very valiant effort.
     
  6. Reach4theSky

    Reach4theSky Playin' a riddim

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    Diaz looked awesome against Cerrone too..
     
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    Conor is probably a better striker than Johnson when not obsessed with throwing his left hand every other second, but it all depends on what version we'll see of him come 202 that will determine if he beats Nate or not. Sort of the same deal with Diaz. If the McGregor who beat Buchinger/Holloway/Aldo shows up, I give him the fight. No matter which version of Nate shows up. Either but corner/cut stoppage or dominant unanimous decision.
     
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  8. Chain Saw

    Chain Saw Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Nate Diaz via 3rd round finish sounds about right.
     
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    I must admit I'm liking Conor a bit more now that he's eaten some humble pie. Should be very interesting this time around.
     
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    NinjaNiK Алфа Краљица Platinum Member

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    I also think this fight will end in the 3rd rd via Sub ... but in my fantasies Nate pulls off a flying armbar from the clinch in round 1 <7>

    #itcouldhappen
     
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    Sometimes Nate looks like a world beater sometimes he looks like gatekeeper. It's strange with him.
     
  12. TheBulletwithWings

    TheBulletwithWings WAR EL CUCUY!

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    And miller, and gomi
     
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    Imagine how much you'll like him after a second serving
     
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    deviake RIGHT MEOW YEAH

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    I like your thinking!

    I would yell so loud my neighbors would think there was another fight going on. :D

    Hell, I'll lose it if Nate just lands a Judo toss.
     
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  15. Dublin

    Dublin Dont fear me

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    I watched that fight recently and honestly I think it wasn't a good win for Nayt. He might have edged it but not by much. I don't think robbery is the right word but if I was Michael Johnson I would not be happy with those judges. Especially when you consider Nayt was disrespecting Johnson by stockton slapping him, an offense which should result in a deducted point. I'm not hating though it was a good performance just not that good.
     
  16. deviake

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    Troll elsewhere.
     
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  17. Dublin

    Dublin Dont fear me

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    Stockton slap has no place in mma. Its the behaviour of a street fighter or a bully. I'm not the only one who has this belief. I still think Diaz deserved the decision just think people are going overboard with praise on him.
     
  18. bobgeese

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    I was pretty amazed at his performance vs Johnson as well. I didn't even think it would be close leading up to the match, Johnson was looking great in the run up to that fight.
     
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  19. Get_that_yayo

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    The only reason people think Nate took any real damage in that fight was because of the cut above his eye. He looked like a guy that had been boxing for many years in that fight. Effectively stood in the pocket and had Mcgregor hitting elbow, hand, arm multiple times. You can tell he's someone that can take a punch no problem and know how to deal with it. That big uppercut that Mcgregor landed - Nate immediately slipped the hook that came right after. Many years of boxing experience on display right there. Mcgregor meanwhile has zero defense what so ever. His version of defense is blocking punches with his chin, ala the Mendes fight.
     
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