Nate Diaz game plan???

Coconutwater said:
I think leaning on Conor to make him carry his weight and tiring him out is good, I just don't think Nate is fast enough to force clinches. He can lean on Conor in inadvertent clinches/tie-ups though.
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Yeah, good point.

I think this rematch is pointless right now but I can't wait to see how it unfolds.
 
deviake said:
Yeah, good point.

I think this rematch is pointless right now but I can't wait to see how it unfolds.
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If Nate had the speed to close the distance like GSP or like Buchecha in BJJ, Nate would finish Conor in the first round via ground and pound or submission for strikes on the ground, but alas, he don't.
 
Coconutwater said:
If Nate had the speed to close the distance like GSP or like Buchecha in BJJ, Nate would finish Conor in the first round via ground and pound or submission for strikes on the ground, but alas, he don't.
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I'm hoping he plods his way into the clinch. He did a couple times in the first fight, and Nick did the same against BJ.
 
wear n tear while avoiding that left hand; Once Conor gasses out he can do whatever he wants.
 
Doesn't need a plan,he just needs good weed,few beers before fight to calm him down.Without,he will be to dangerous for little blondie boy
 
Nate just has to survive

The longer the fight goes the worse for conor
 
arridude said:
The different between the first fight it's clearly the fact that both fighters have a full camp. This involves that both fighters will have a major game plan to execute.
What i wonder is what Diaz game plan will be coming to this fight against Conor.

According to Conor's training video looks like he's focused more with striking then jiu jitsu, but must be said that Conor replaced touch-butt Ido P. with Dillon Danis jiu jitsu specialist.

Is Diaz planning to try to take down Conor this time and make him grapple in order to make him tired or will he stand and trade like he did last time since the beginning of the fight?
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he might get murked but its all good
 
ZAFARI said:
Nate won Round 1 last time.

Conor had a full camp and hit Nate with his very best shots. It's not like Nate's chin or cardio has gotten worse with a full camp, this time.

Conor is fucked.
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Nate is one of my favorite fighters and obviously I want him to win this fight so badly, but no way he won that first round in the first fight.
 
ZAFARI said:
Nate won Round 1 last time.

Conor had a full camp and hit Nate with his very best shots. It's not like Nate's chin or cardio has gotten worse with a full camp, this time.

Conor is fucked.
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You're truly delusional if you think Nate won that first round.
 
deviake said:
I'm hoping he plods his way into the clinch. He did a couple times in the first fight, and Nick did the same against BJ.
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I don't want him to plod into it. Conor, if fresh, is a dangerous counter puncher, and IMO, can easily touch Nate. The huge problem I see is Nate getting a bad cut like he always does because of his skin and brow, then the doc stopping the fight via cuts. It would suck if that happened. I'm praying if anything happens, they let Nate bleed like normal so he can continue to tire Conor out. But yes, I think Conor can catch Nate with sold punches if Nate chooses to plod forward into a clinch. It's not impossible, but not worth getting touched and getting cut.
 
All he has to do, and probably worked on, is defending against the left hand. He's done this with bringing in smaller, top shelf boxers to emulate Conor's quickness and angles. Conor has done the same with larger boxers. The difference is, Nate saw pretty much the full arsenal/barrage of boxing that Conor has to work with under a 10 days notice. He will be able to come into the fight sharp from a ton of sparring rounds to mitigate some of the shots delivered with Conor's fast, powerful left hand.

The difference in this fight, IMO, is that Conor showed Nate most of his playing cards but, before he got a taste of Nate's suffocating boxing pressure, he panic-wrestled. Conor didn't truly experience/weather much of Nate's boxing enough to understand how the Diaz brother's boxing is effective. So without undergoing that style of pressure, I don't know that Conor is fully prepared. A well prepared Nate should make the 1st round of this fight look like the 2nd round of the last fight. Conor is a badass fighter/finisher, but he has finally met, in the beautiful words of Pantera, "an immovable stone in your world of weak".
 
kiley_sean said:
All he has to do, and probably worked on, is defending against the left hand. He's done this with bringing in smaller, top shelf boxers to emulate Conor's quickness and angles. Conor has done the same with larger boxers. The difference is, Nate saw pretty much the full arsenal/barrage of boxing that Conor has to work with under a 10 days notice. He will be able to come into the fight sharp from a ton of sparring rounds to mitigate some of the shots delivered with Conor's fast, powerful left hand.

The difference in this fight, IMO, is that Conor showed Nate most of his playing cards but, before he got a taste of Nate's suffocating boxing pressure, he panic-wrestled. Conor didn't truly experience/weather much of Nate's boxing enough to understand how the Diaz brother's boxing is effective. So without undergoing that style of pressure, I don't know that Conor is fully prepared. A well prepared Nate should make the 1st round of this fight look like the 2nd round of the last fight. Conor is a badass fighter/finisher, but he has finally met, in the beautiful words of Pantera, "an immovable stone in your world of weak".
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Excellent point about Nate tasting the full arsenal and power of Conor, whereas, Conor didn't get a good look at Nate's full array of skills and tendencies.

Both have talent but Conor starting wilting too soon to really get a good read of Nate's combos, slips etc...
 
keep his distance with his jab and slap, while maintaining a high pace in order to tire irish jabroni. when mcG starts to strike, move away from his line of attack (moving to the sides, pivoting) and counter when nate sees a opening go for the 1-2. clinch to interrupt irish jabroni's attack momentum.

overall nate has to strike and keep his distance.
 
Use that length and reach to keep Conor outside and frustrated with slick boxing it will force Conor to do his spin sh!t to try and reach you start taxing his virgin 1 & 2 rounds early. At 1st and earliest opportunity Stockton b!tch slap his ass the crowd will roar and Conor will get flashbacks and press even more to try and get his own crowd roar. Draw him close to the fence and clinch his ass press your weight and frame on him let him feel what a big man feels like dirty box his ass with fists brutalize his body & thighs with knees drag him to the mat if you can, wear the sh!t out of him.

Or just did what you did what you did the 1st time....
 
Ald0 said:
Nate is one of my favorite fighters and obviously I want him to win this fight so badly, but no way he won that first round in the first fight.
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I know. I just say that to put the CMcG fan girls into an all-over fidget.
 
ZAFARI said:
Nate won Round 1 last time.

Conor had a full camp and hit Nate with his very best shots. It's not like Nate's chin or cardio has gotten worse with a full camp, this time.

Conor is fucked.
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No he didn't and McG spent his camp training for RDS FFS.

That said, Conor may well be still fucked, chin and cardio are hard to overcome.
 
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